Ticket tips and Tricks for 2025 festival

[czuk]

41 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

Use case this morning, I missed out on Everton - Liverpool tickets following the queue. 

 

I logged on at 9.40 for a 10am sale, then went into the waiting room. But then I went for a shower, returning only to move my mouse a couple of times. Bot behaviour? Or flagged as a non-standard user already and never had a chance whatever I did? Guess we'll find out on Sunday! 

As an Evertonian, I'd say you were quite lucky.

[efcfanwirral]

38 minutes ago, incident said:

 

Did you actually get a "suspicious behaviour" message?

 

Or just stayed in the queue and it didn't go anywhere?

 

Or kicked out of the queue with no explanation?

No, very far back in the queue. Only thinking about it based on the posts that indicated that queue position is based on behaviours and setup. 

[efcfanwirral]

16 minutes ago, czuk said:

As an Evertonian, I'd say you were quite lucky.

Oh im not at all bothered about missing out on that match, just a bit concerned as it's the first time I've ever missed out on a normal football match ticket, now that the queue is in place. Doesn't bode well! 

[Gnomicide]

5 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

Oh im not at all bothered about missing out on that match, just a bit concerned as it's the first time I've ever missed out on a normal football match ticket, now that the queue is in place. Doesn't bode well! 

 

Same with Liverpool fans today, I don't know it they use Queue-It.

 

[Crazyfool01]

19 minutes ago, Gnomicide said:

 

Same with Liverpool fans today, I don't know it they use Queue-It.

 

they do 

[Dizzy2012]

2 hours ago, incident said:

 

The problem is, we don't know.

 

It's been many years since we went into a sale with this many unknowns. Probably 20 and people weren't obsessing over it the same degree back then.

20 years ago, didn’t we still walk into HMV and buy our tickets over the counter?! 😭

[Ayrshire Chris]

10 minutes ago, Dizzy2012 said:

20 years ago, didn’t we still walk into HMV and buy our tickets over the counter?! 😭

I blame the internet. 

[Dizzy2012]

11 minutes ago, Ayrshire Chris said:

I blame the internet. 

 

Are we using Chrome, Edge, what for our 1x browser, 1x tab option? 

So nervous.... 

[phillyfaddle]

5 hours ago, Gnomicide said:

 

In theory, yes. The main thing to remember is that you have not secured the tickets until payment is made. Don't think you've got 10 minutes if you get through, it could sell out as you are entering your details.

Just like the existing system 🙄. I never recovered from them changing it for the 2013 sale. Before then, once you got into the booking form, you were guaranteed tickets. None of this competing at each step nonsense. 

[Jack.194]

10 hours ago, sokkovokna said:

@BluePaul
 

You could solve that by not making groups at all.

 

Give all 8 persons a number.

 

If person 1 gets trough, he buys for person 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.

If person 2 gets trough, he buys for person 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.

...

If person 8 gets trough, he buys for person 8, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

 

This way everyone has an equal chance and no one had to be drawn beforehand in the unlucky group of two.

 

If you all are in direct communication you can quickly inform when one has tickets and everyone starts to try for the remaining two.

 

This would work if people were just numbers. Say person 1, 2 and 3 were two parents and a child respectively. And the second parent gets through, do they leave the other parent out?

 

Definitely could work for small/medium groups of just friends, but I imagine you’d run into difficulties quickly

[Skip997]

33 minutes ago, Ayrshire Chris said:

I blame the internet. 

I blame the Eavis family for allowing TV coverage. 
 

Although the last ticket I bought was in 1985

[BlueDaze]

1 hour ago, Ayrshire Chris said:

I blame the internet. 

Blame the young 

[Oscr]

On 11/7/2024 at 3:14 PM, gsp8181 said:

Here's how it's working

 

You go onto glastonbury.seetickets.com. You'll hit an Akamai CDN which is protected with Akamai Bot Manager

 

It will calculate an initial score for you based on your hostname, IP address, useragent, ISP, and how many people are going through that IP. So if you're going through something dodgy like a cloud datacentre or a commercial VPN you'll be a lot higher. If you're going through a mobile network AND are a mobile phone you'll probably be given more leeway.

 

If your score is too high you'll be instantly blocked, if you're in the mid zone you'll be 'flagged', and if it's low you'll be let on instantly.

 

If you're in the midpoint you can usually tell because the first time you log into the website you'll see a short delay before you get on while it 'fingerprints' your browser. Whereby it uses Javascript to gather all the information it can and can identify you with surprising accuracy, from stuff like, do you have any custom fonts, what plugins do you have in your browser, to the weirder stuff like drawing animations and analysing them to see if your graphics card has any minute differences. So they can track you if you've got firefox and chrome on the same machine.

 

Akamai will then set a load of cookies to link you to a session.

 

They'll then continuously run the fingerprinting script to watch for changes. So if you transfer any queue cookies to another browser they'll figure it out pretty fast when suddenly that browser starts giving completely different information. It will also look at stuff like your mouse pattern and you tabbing in and out to build a behavioural pattern

 

They analyse it all serverside with machine learning to compare what you're doing, to that of a typical user and bot.

 

They can also link you to activity on previous Akamai sites to work out if you're bot like or not.

 

If it thinks you're a bot it will flag you for a ban which doesn't happen instantly but typically in a minute or two.

 

If you clear the cookie it will just refingerprint you and then ban you again.

 

Queue-It is integrated into the Akamai suite and uses Akamai session handling.

 

If you're on something that meets a typical shared IP pattern such as a CGNAT like using a phone on mobile data or on a work computer they will give you a lower score and more leeway basically. If you're logging on from those AWS instances you spun up you'll be given a high score. Plus like you might have different drivers, fonts, setups, running different mobile os versions, bought different device models, languages etc. If you're doing something it considers weird like running Linux, or keeping the tab in the background you'll be given a higher score.

 

My friends got a screen reader and triggered it trying to register so I guess they've got it on a pretty high setting. I emailed them to tell them

 

Also interesting is that the SeeTickets side after the CDN is not changed at all and still has the 'youre on a holding page, refresh in 20 seconds' active which I saw triggered the other day.

 

So i'm guessing the queueit will block access to the website until you're at the front of the queue and then give you a 10 minute token to access it normally

 

If they don't properly clear the queueit session then you will be able to buy as many tickets as you like in those 10 minutes

 

A lot of it is similar to how those click here if you're a human boxes work, sometimes they let you straight on because you look like a typical user from a typical network and haven't done anything funny, sometimes they might ask you to solve a picture puzzle if you're on a shared network, and if you're on a VPN it will blast you with tons of pictures that it intentionally makes very grainy to try and trip you up

 

I do DevOps work and have seen some presentations from their competitor so figured out how this ones working

 

So if mobile data gets you a lower score does anyone know if tethering your phone’s mobile data to your PC gets you a lower score (and better chances)?

[belfast]

27 minutes ago, Skip997 said:

I blame the Eavis family for allowing TV coverage. 
 

Although the last ticket I bought was in 1985

Posts like these make me laugh. 

 

Blaming the family who created Glastonbury for trying to make it as big and successful as possible. 

 

Incredible take.

[Crazyfool01]

3 minutes ago, BlueDaze said:

Blame the young 

hmm 🙂 ..... recognise this as an album title 🙂 

[BlueDaze]

2 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

hmm 🙂 ..... recognise this as an album title 🙂 

New that you would pick it up 😉

[Skip997]

 

Posts like these make me laugh. 

 

Blaming the family who created Glastonbury for trying to make it as big and successful as possible. 

 

Incredible take.

But it is why people struggle to get tickets 

 

A festival half the size with smaller acts would be just as much fun 

[Crazyfool01]

got the Desktop fired up a few days ago ... make sure you do this early and can remember all passwords , dont need that stress on ticket morning / evening ... to be greeted with this ...  happy ticket day eve eve 

[belfast]

2 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

got the Desktop fired up a few days ago ... make sure you do this early and can remember all passwords , dont need that stress on ticket morning / evening ... to be greeted with this ...  happy ticket day eve eve 

What passwords do you mean? Also, do we get an email for the ticket link on the evening/morning?

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, belfast said:

What passwords do you mean? Also, do we get an email for the ticket link on the evening/morning?

just to sign into computer ... mine took a few attempts . dont think we will . just log on to Glastonbury site and it should have the link or itll be in here on the day .... up to an hour before sale , although when exactly isnt known as yet 

[TGCarr]

Best suggestions for autofill for Chrome & Mobile?

[Mike A]

6 minutes ago, TGCarr said:

Best suggestions for autofill for Chrome & Mobile?

I use Smart Paste - https://www.smartpaste.io/ on Chrome though I don't use it for mobile.

[Stokesy10]

Guys... for the coach sale, in our group of 6, could 2 people apply for Coventry, and 4 for B'ham, or do all 6 have to be from the same place?

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, Stokesy10 said:

Guys... for the coach sale, in our group of 6, could 2 people apply for Coventry, and 4 for B'ham, or do all 6 have to be from the same place?

It’s 6 but you’ll only get one transaction each time you get in … so either the 4 or the 2 potentially may miss out unless you get in twice 

[Ayrshire Chris]

1 hour ago, Stokesy10 said:

Guys... for the coach sale, in our group of 6, could 2 people apply for Coventry, and 4 for B'ham, or do all 6 have to be from the same place?

I’d go for all from the same place and just arrange for the location that suits most. It’s nervy enough inputting six regs for the one departure point without complicating it.