Ticket tips and Tricks for 2025 festival

[Ballian67]

25 minutes ago, incident said:

 

Because everyone hates the idea.

Is that true?  Stops the bots, can segregate allocation I.e. small % for those who’ve been registered for 10 years and never been, fairer distribution, no site crash issues or getting messages saying that it thinks your a bot.  Not saying it’s perfect and may not be right but just wondered.  Other highly over subscribed events do it this way

[MEGABOWL]

1 minute ago, Crazyfool01 said:

ah so did mine but same as my others 

I wonder if there’s some sort of invisible black listing going on there

[incident]

Just now, Ballian67 said:

Is that true?

 

It's certainly never had much in the way of support whenever someone suggests it every few years. Maybe this time will be different.

 

Doubt it though.

[phillyfaddle]

35 minutes ago, Robjbrear said:

Weird, I have had a confirmation email but won't appear when searching on See. 

Same for our Group 2. Emails now received (6 hours after payment went thru), but not appearing yet in See’s Order Tracker. Just taking a while for servers to update. 

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, Ballian67 said:

Is that true?  Stops the bots, can segregate allocation I.e. small % for those who’ve been registered for 10 years and never been, fairer distribution, no site crash issues or getting messages saying that it thinks your a bot.  Not saying it’s perfect and may not be right but just wondered.  Other highly over subscribed events do it this way

London marathon is often used as an example .... people register and never get a place exactly the same in 10 plus years 

[ads1980]

I can’t see any drastic changes being made to how the tickets are sold - why would they. As far as the festival is concerned, they’ve sold all the tickets very quickly. As others have stated, you don’t have to go back that far to point where it struggled to sell all the tickets. 

[TheDayman]

8 minutes ago, Toilet Duck said:

Basically, it needs to rain for the 5 days. Most of the festivals for the last 10+ years have had great weather, lots of current attendees have never experienced the drudge of a really muddy one. 2007 put me off the following year. That and a massive crash to the global economy. Then it should be handy enough to get tickets for a few years. Ok, I’m kidding (I shouldn’t even joke about rain! NFR NFC!), but that’s what it took to dampen demand before. There’s just too many people that want to go. Can’t please everyone and whatever system they pick will have flaws. Personally (even though I didn’t get sorted this morning), it seemed more stable than other years, which is a good thing. Weirdly doesn’t feel as bad not getting there when I never got close, compared to losing out as payment wouldn’t go through on the See site due to everyone simultaneously hammering F5. 

It's (unfortunately?) the gradual value shift by Gen Z and Millennials. Both demographics value experience over physical possessions these days

https://www.forbes.com/sites/blakemorgan/2015/06/01/nownershipnoproblem-nowners-millennials-value-experiences-over-ownership/

[MilkyJoe]

11 minutes ago, Toilet Duck said:

Basically, it needs to rain for the 5 days. Most of the festivals for the last 10+ years have had great weather, lots of current attendees have never experienced the drudge of a really muddy one. 2007 put me off the following year. That and a massive crash to the global economy. Then it should be handy enough to get tickets for a few years. Ok, I’m kidding (I shouldn’t even joke about rain! NFR NFC!), but that’s what it took to dampen demand before. There’s just too many people that want to go. Can’t please everyone and whatever system they pick will have flaws. Personally (even though I didn’t get sorted this morning), it seemed more stable than other years, which is a good thing. Weirdly doesn’t feel as bad not getting there when I never got close, compared to losing out as payment wouldn’t go through on the See site due to everyone simultaneously hammering F5. 

I doubt bad weather wouldn't dampen the demand though. There is so much demand from people that have never been or regulars that know that bad weather doesn't make a bad festival. The TV coverage wouldn't show the struggles from stage to stage in the mud or collapsed tents, or the fact that nobody is sitting on the grass. It would still sell out. Plus bad weather next year would be forgotten about by the time ticket day 2026 comes around.

[secondhandsausagedog]

13 minutes ago, MilkyJoe said:

I'd give it a bit longer than 10 minutes. somebody earlier on in here went from 2 bars straight to 20 bars at 09:14 and was checked out by 09:18. 

 

Was this on a tab that wasn't persistently open or lost connection? It seems like it would only travel that fast if there was no connection to the server and then it caught up when it reconnected. 

[Looother]

54 minutes ago, incident said:

Not going to go into details...

 

Please go into details. Surely this is the place for them. And personally speaking, I love a good detail.

[MilkyJoe]

5 minutes ago, secondhandsausagedog said:

 

Was this on a tab that wasn't persistently open or lost connection? It seems like it would only travel that fast if there was no connection to the server and then it caught up when it reconnected. 

No idea of the exact details. Was a mate of @Toilet Duck earlier on in this thread.

[Spindles]

It feels fairer to do it this way, but looking at reddit there were plenty of people gaming the system.  The problem really is that if the system can be gamed that it is going to be the bot providers that are best armed to do so as they'll be experienced with the background tech knowledge required.

 

I guess the proof of the pudding will be whether there is a noticeable demographic shift.  Personally I'm all for the idea of it being fairer for first timers rather than huge groups who succeed every year (which I've benefited from myself in the past).

[Gnomicide]

The problem with the lottery is that other than filling out an online application, zero effort is required. At least with the new one, people have to be up and ready to enter details. I don't believe for a second that huge swathes of people are paying a load of cash to a bot farm. I'm sure it happens but the numbers will be relatively small.

 

Imagine missing out on tickets just to read posts from people saying "Forgot I entered the Glastonbury ballot, I woke up this morning to an email saying I've got a ticket."

 

Also not convinced on the new system resulting in a change of vibe.

 

From the Oasis thread...

Edited 2 hours ago by Gnomicide
Adding image.

[Toilet Duck]

5 minutes ago, MilkyJoe said:

No idea of the exact details. Was a mate of @Toilet Duck earlier on in this thread.

If we are talking about my mate that got through, he had a single session open on his phone (he had other sessions open with other devices in other connections, but single connection on 5g was what got through). Jumped from 2 bars to 20 all of a sudden, then was in within 2 minutes with steady progress of the bars. None of his other sessions came remotely close. No point looking for patterns (there is no pattern!). Just random luck (which by the accounts on this thread, you can tilt in your favour a bit by ignoring the advice of See and the festival in terms of both refreshing and the number of connections!). 

[Flighty Zoo]

35 minutes ago, DownlnAlbion said:

The device we sorted tickets on didn't go to 3 bars until 09:08. We got in at 09:32 and initially got sold out after entering reg numbers and post codes. Kept resubmitting and eventually got allocated tickets and paid by 09:44.

 

Basically, if your bar doesn't start moving by 10 past you've got no hope. If it starts moving in the first 5 mins you're almost guaranteed (barring no other errors occur).

mine progressively moved from 9 and ended up at 27 bars before selling out. I was very close but not close enough. 

[danz026]

One thing that would help to alleviate the big group advantage is that I would absolutely say you should have to be the lead booker to book for a group. At the moment you can split your syndicates into groups of 6, as soon as one group gets in then everyone switches to look for the next group and so on.

 

If you had to be logged in and could only book for yourself + 5 (not any 6 people) I think the big group syndicates would struggle a lot more.

 

would also mean that your queue place is tied to your registration not your device, which would in turn stop people sharing login details with a big spreadsheet syndicate.

 

The only way to beat that system would be to register multiple times, but they could get around that by not allowing more than one registration with the same name and same postcode. I suspect the number of people that share both the same name and same postcode with someone else who signs up is absolutely minimal and open to being overridden by the staff. 

[incident]

Just now, Gnomicide said:

I don't believe for a second that huge swathes of people are paying a load of cash to a bot farm. I'm sure it happens but the numbers will be relatively small.

 

It's possible to game the system without spending any cash, or engaging with anyone of dubious provenance. Indeed - far easier (and anecdotally, more widespread) now than it ever was before.

 

I've heard people complain that over the past few years getting tickets had become an arms race - which had elements of truth but was often overestimated and overstated - but if See are still the ticket agent and are using the same system 2 years from now (which is anyones guess), then the numbers required to make a dent are going to increase substantially.

[Pipine]

 

4 minutes ago, danz026 said:

One thing that would help to alleviate the big group advantage is that I would absolutely say you should have to be the lead booker to book for a group. At the moment you can split your syndicates into groups of 6, as soon as one group gets in then everyone switches to look for the next group and so on.

 

If you had to be logged in and could only book for yourself + 5 (not any 6 people) I think the big group syndicates would struggle a lot more.

 
Out of upvotes but this is a great idea to stop the scammers. Or at least make it more difficult. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Pipine

[RosaAG]

18 minutes ago, MilkyJoe said:

I doubt bad weather wouldn't dampen the demand though. There is so much demand from people that have never been or regulars that know that bad weather doesn't make a bad festival. The TV coverage wouldn't show the struggles from stage to stage in the mud or collapsed tents, or the fact that nobody is sitting on the grass. It would still sell out. Plus bad weather next year would be forgotten about by the time ticket day 2026 comes around.

 

In fact, the only year I went (2016), the weather was terrible and the mud made everything difficult, but I kept trying to get tickets after that

[Physical_graffiti]

52 minutes ago, danz026 said:

Because Emily wants the same people getting in every year and us first timers shut out.

 

The actual fairest way would be to go back to in person tickets. 200-ish places across the UK selling 1,000 tickets each. Go and queue up overnight to get them.

You would actually have much less chance as a first timer in the ballot, because ten times as many people would enter it than are willing to try get tickets at 9am on a random Sunday. If there ever was a ballot we’d all kiss our chances of going to glasto goodbye, maybe once every 20 years?

 

I see the benefits of the queuing idea, rewards effort! But really not fair, depending on where you live you could still be quite far from a location, and queuing overnight in the cold is really only something fit able bodied people can realistically achieve

[UncleJunior]

2 hours ago, Nobody Interesting said:

Maybe it needs as many as possible to, once the contact page is up and running again, report this to them.

Grass

[Skip997]

1 minute ago, Physical_graffiti said:

queuing overnight in the cold is really only something fit able bodied people can realistically achieve

Paid “professional queuers” would get involved. It would have to be policed and there would be a high chance of violence 

[secondhandsausagedog]

13 minutes ago, incident said:

 

It's possible to game the system without spending any cash, or engaging with anyone of dubious provenance. Indeed - far easier (and anecdotally, more widespread) now than it ever was before.

 

I've heard people complain that over the past few years getting tickets had become an arms race - which had elements of truth but was often overestimated and overstated - but if See are still the ticket agent and are using the same system 2 years from now (which is anyones guess), then the numbers required to make a dent are going to increase substantially.

Exactly this, it will be wild if they keep this system. 

[Ayrshire Chris]

6 minutes ago, Physical_graffiti said:

see the benefits of the queuing idea, rewards effort! But really not fair, depending on where you live you could still be quite far from a location, and queuing overnight in the cold is really only something fit able bodied people can realistically achieve

I was in this overnight queue for Led Zeppelin tickets, but a helluva lot younger!

[Nobody Interesting]

6 minutes ago, UncleJunior said:

Grass

 

I think you want the word association game not this thread.