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4 minutes ago, dingbat2 said:

Doesn't this still massively favour really large groups though? Suppose 10 groups of 6 people get together as a group, all 60 try for tickets and join the queue on Tday. The chances are that a few of the 60 (hopefully 10) will be sufficiently close to the front of the queue to be able to buy tickets, but the other 54 wont. Those 10 people can then get tickets for their group (or one of the other groups if there group has already bagged them) so massively increasing their chance of bagging tickets. Each person has a low chance of getting to the buying page individually but 10 of the 60 should get there, and then buy tickets for the whole group?

If each of the 60 have 10 mates/family trying then they get 660 places in the queue.

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I really cannot see the 'selling Queue ID's' being that much of  a problem as:

We have  no idea what one looks like so anyone doing it off a total stranger will likely get what they deserve
Sellers would sell it to multiple people cos they are greedy arses so the buyers will get what they deserve

With groups like we all have we have trusted people with bank details for years and it works well so in that it will still work well but a new set up of selling Queue ID's - really cannot see it getting much business at all and so loads of people in the queue will not actually buy any tickets.

 

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2 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

I really cannot see the 'selling Queue ID's' being that much of  a problem as:

We have  no idea what one looks like so anyone doing it off a total stranger will likely get what they deserve
Sellers would sell it to multiple people cos they are greedy arses so the buyers will get what they deserve

With groups like we all have we have trusted people with bank details for years and it works well so in that it will still work well but a new set up of selling Queue ID's - really cannot see it getting much business at all and so loads of people in the queue will not actually buy any tickets.

 

 

Hey got place one in the queue just send me £300 and I’ll grab your tickets… trust me… promise

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2 hours ago, Chip Batch said:

I assume the festival are aware and have agreed to this change. I'm sure they'll say something about it at some point.  

They may even change their mind.

given its posted on their website i'd say its 100% set in stone

 

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14 minutes ago, dingbat2 said:

Doesn't this still massively favour really large groups though? Suppose 10 groups of 6 people get together as a group, all 60 try for tickets and join the queue on Tday. The chances are that a few of the 60 (hopefully 10) will be sufficiently close to the front of the queue to be able to buy tickets, but the other 54 wont. Those 10 people can then get tickets for their group (or one of the other groups if there group has already bagged them) so massively increasing their chance of bagging tickets. Each person has a low chance of getting to the buying page individually but 10 of the 60 should get there, and then buy tickets for the whole group?

Say one of the 60 got through straight away. They could buy six tickets and immediately try again for the rest of the group with exactly the same chance as the others (and everyone else in the world) of getting through. Now they'd be put to the back of the queue - which, to a small degree, decreases the group's overall chance of getting tickets for everyone. And, therefore, that should increase the chances of people outside of that group getting them. At least, that's what I'm hoping

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17 minutes ago, dingbat2 said:

Doesn't this still massively favour really large groups though? Suppose 10 groups of 6 people get together as a group, all 60 try for tickets and join the queue on Tday. The chances are that a few of the 60 (hopefully 10) will be sufficiently close to the front of the queue to be able to buy tickets, but the other 54 wont. Those 10 people can then get tickets for their group (or one of the other groups if there group has already bagged them) so massively increasing their chance of bagging tickets. Each person has a low chance of getting to the buying page individually but 10 of the 60 should get there, and then buy tickets for the whole group?

Yes, it does to some extent, but it’s sort of like putting 60 random bets on something rather than just one, the chances of at least some success is greatly improved. On the downside, the highly organised group of dedicated people compared to a similar sized group that aren’t so savvy about F5 and multiple browsers, etc will now most likely have a fairly equal chance of success!

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Our group of c. 35-40 have been incredibly lucky - I've only missed out on 1 since 2009.  Don't know how much of that is down to previously having a good plan/large group or just plain dumb luck.  I guess we'll find out this time.....

 

If as a group we do badly this time round, I suspect many won't be trying for 2027.  Possibly me included.

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14 minutes ago, discgoesmic said:

Interesting point - How would you go about selling your place in the queue? Can you somehow assign the QueueID to someone else or just buy tickets on their behalf? I would've thought it would be a massive scramble to arrange this when tickets sell out extremely quickly.

Post on twitter a screenshot of your number within the queue, or if Glastonbury hides this, the green bar which roughly translates to the position you have.
Say you'll purchase 6 tickets on behalf of the highest bidder and ask them to provide card details (a lot of banks do single use virtual cards now) and pay on behalf of them, or ask the buyer to send over full funds in advance and return the funds on failure.

It requires both parties to be quick and communicate, but I've first hand experience of similar schemes and when it's something hard to source, you'll be amazed how quickly people can complete a transaction. Glastonbury allocates you 10 minutes too and I've seen people selling checkouts/slots for items that require you to check out in under 1 minute, so Glastonbury's time allocation is a walk in the park to people that do this consistently. If they do provide a queue number, it will be absolutely rife.

I'd be amazed if there isn't already lot of discord groups aware and planning for the sunday ticket sales already, some serious money to be made. A lot will offer prepaid slots and will refund in the event they're unsuccessful. I used to be a member of such groups and there is vetting processes to ensure those offering slots are genuine and aren't trying to pull a fast one to protect the users/buyers. 

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1 minute ago, Ayrshire Chris said:

You might still need the f5 once the all tickets allocated appears

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they're giving away every small advantage we had...all my friends have had to be told to carry on at this message in the past. Hopefully loads of people just don't read it

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2 hours ago, Ricci's Special Kebabs said:

Sam Fender ticket queue crashed for many people, if that happens and you lose you place you're going to be at the back with no chance of getting a ticket. 

 

With the old system you've always got the same chance no matter what time you refreshed your page. 

It will be wise to copy your Queue-ID to notepad etc once you get in the queue.  That *should* allow you to rejoin in the same place if your device, or anything else, crashes.

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Just now, parsonjack said:

It will be wise to copy your Queue-ID to notepad etc once you get in the queue.  That *should* allow you to rejoin in the same place if your device, or anything else, crashes.

Good idea.

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2 hours ago, TheDayman said:

 

You'll both have the same external IP address. If the announcement is to be believed, only one device (on that network) should work

This would put environments such as University halls at a massive disadvantage where there could be dozens, if not hundreds, of connections hitting See with the same external IP address.

 

It's pretty certain therefore that See are aware of that and inspect packets at a lower level than simply IP, possibly at Port number as each connection would have a different Port number and would therefore be seen as different devices.

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1 minute ago, parsonjack said:

This would put environments such as University halls at a massive disadvantage where there could be dozens, if not hundreds, of connections hitting See with the same external IP address.

 

It's pretty certain therefore that See are aware of that and inspect packets at a lower level than simply IP, possibly at Port number as each connection would have a different Port number and would therefore be seen as different devices.

Hopefully this is the case 😂

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12 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

I really cannot see the 'selling Queue ID's' being that much of  a problem as:

We have  no idea what one looks like so anyone doing it off a total stranger will likely get what they deserve
Sellers would sell it to multiple people cos they are greedy arses so the buyers will get what they deserve

With groups like we all have we have trusted people with bank details for years and it works well so in that it will still work well but a new set up of selling Queue ID's - really cannot see it getting much business at all and so loads of people in the queue will not actually buy any tickets.

 

Discord groups are offering "guaranteed" tickets as of today and I have already seen evidence of this. 
 

Yes, there will be total strangers trying to do this through twitter and make a quick buck that fail or don't have any success, but there will also be huge, massively organised groups that are already putting in framework and selling "guaranteed tickets" that will absolutely clean up from their finders fees. From my experience, those offering slots for a high ticket item like Glastonbury will be founders or proven members of said groups, meaning there is already an element of trust AND a guaranteed refund in the event of failure.

These groups require a monthly paid membership and if you haven't any experience utilising these groups, you really can't imagine HOW organised they are and how successful they are. I have first hand experience using them after losing my job during covid and made enough money that I decided to do it full time, but felt burnt out after a couple of months as you constantly need to be glued to your PC/Phone in order to make decent money. 
 

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So, the queue will hit 2 million about half a second after 9am Sunday, a huge percentage will be people 'holding a place' to tout once they get close, and we'll be managing/watching the queue all day instead of the usual 20mins to 1hour and it's over lark.

 

Can't see anything here to make me feel better about the new arrangement. I experienced the hell of this system for the Oasis tix....

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Just now, lsccksdg said:

Sorry if you’ve discussed this already, but people on Twitter are saying you now need to be signed into SeeTickets beforehand. Can someone confirm if this true? 

In previous sales, no - the booking system was entirely independent from the normal SeeTickets ecosystem. From what we can see there's nothing to suggest this will change, but who knows!

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