Ticket tips and Tricks for 2025 festival

[I am Jon]

Got through on my phone so Apple Pay was the fastest option, worked perfectly no need for extra bank verification step. 
 

Manually entering details is too slow, increased chance of losing ticket. 

Edited November 15, 2024 by I am Jon

[Rose-Colored Boy]

Yes Apple Pay worked absolutely fine. Just got to make sure your details match what you’ve put into the system, obviously. 

[iamstreety]

Was trying as a test for Sunday. 1 mobile phone on 4G. Joined the queue at 5.53 and was in about 6.10.

 

Friends also got in on mobile, rather than on Wi-Fi. Looks like I am borrowing all my families phones on Sunday.

[fraybentos1]

Apple pay was never an option previously was it?

[Avalon_Fields]

Help me understand, with large numbers stuck on 2 bars, surely there must be 2 queues, one a holding group for the majority trying, then the real queue once anybody progresses further. If everyone on at the sale time was in a single random queue then surely you’d see some progress even if it’s only a bar or two? 

[paulshane]

interestijng, at exactly 11am the page flipped to the old holding page:

 

[paulshane]

and now its back on the standard page

 

 

thought i was gonna get lucky 😄

[clasher]

7 minutes ago, Avalon_Fields said:

Help me understand, with large numbers stuck on 2 bars, surely there must be 2 queues, one a holding group for the majority trying, then the real queue once anybody progresses further. If everyone on at the sale time was in a single random queue then surely you’d see some progress even if it’s only a bar or two? 

 

I think there's just a treshold, it doesn't move until you're X in the queue and then it moves in set increments.

[incident]

12 minutes ago, clasher said:

 

I think there's just a treshold, it doesn't move until you're X in the queue and then it moves in set increments.

 

Yep. This is how I see it. You'll only get a bit of progress beyond 2 blocks once you're within X of getting in.

 

Obviously we don't know what X is though which means the progress bar is only useful as in indicator relative to other devices, or when you're getting near the end.

Edited November 15, 2024 by incident

[mjtko]

38 minutes ago, iamstreety said:

Was trying as a test for Sunday. 1 mobile phone on 4G. Joined the queue at 5.53 and was in about 6.10.

 

Friends also got in on mobile, rather than on Wi-Fi. Looks like I am borrowing all my families phones on Sunday.

Seems that plenty of people on laptops/tablets etc got through too, but I feel like more people were successful on mobile, myself included, though that is obviously potential confirmation bias. It's also possible that more people try on just mobiles than just laptops etc.

 

If I was to hazard a guess at a logical reason to back up the anecdotal evidence I am seeing, I'd say that those on mobiles might rank a little higher in the queueing system as it's more difficult to fake coming from a mobile device/browser and so they're more likely genuine. But that is putting a lot in the hands of whatever system might opaquely performing rankings rather than randomly assigning.

 

We can never really know, but I'd certainly be trying as many mobiles as possible! Good luck!

[fraybentos1]

1 minute ago, mjtko said:

though that is obviously potential confirmation bias

It is. It's just random and most people only have a small sample size.

[iamstreety]

2 minutes ago, mjtko said:

Seems that plenty of people on laptops/tablets etc got through too, but I feel like more people were successful on mobile, myself included, though that is obviously potential confirmation bias. It's also possible that more people try on just mobiles than just laptops etc.

 

If I was to hazard a guess at a logical reason to back up the anecdotal evidence I am seeing, I'd say that those on mobiles might rank a little higher in the queueing system as it's more difficult to fake coming from a mobile device/browser and so they're more likely genuine. But that is putting a lot in the hands of whatever system might opaquely performing rankings rather than randomly assigning.

 

We can never really know, but I'd certainly be trying as many mobiles as possible! Good luck!

I agree, I think that mobile users rank higher. When I queue for Liverpool FC tickets, I always get in with a mobile rather than a desktop. It makes selecting a seat a pain in the arse. Same as glasto, when you are trying to copy and paste everyones registration numbers across from the group spreadsheet.

[stuie]

2 minutes ago, iamstreety said:

I agree, I think that mobile users rank higher. When I queue for Liverpool FC tickets, I always get in with a mobile rather than a desktop. It makes selecting a seat a pain in the arse. Same as glasto, when you are trying to copy and paste everyones registration numbers across from the group spreadsheet.

 

For Sunday I'll be tethering a laptop to my mobile 4G/5G I think! 

Makes the data entry easier 🙂

 

[uscore]

13 minutes ago, iamstreety said:

I agree, I think that mobile users rank higher. When I queue for Liverpool FC tickets, I always get in with a mobile rather than a desktop. It makes selecting a seat a pain in the arse. Same as glasto, when you are trying to copy and paste everyones registration numbers across from the group spreadsheet.

 

this would be terrible if it's true.

 

People have talked about this system using the word "fair" because we all get an equal chance.  If there is some weird opaque ranking system prioritising mobile phones or other things it detects, then it's not at all fair.

 

At a push I could imagine it puts people at the back of the queue if the system is really certain they are using multiple browsers or something.

 

But if it's quietly prioritising, or silently penalising people for small infractions, then there could be tonnes of people who can never get tickets because they don't use a mobile, or have an ad-blocker on, or their mobile phone is on the same IP address as the laptop, and they'd never know this is costing them.

Edited November 15, 2024 by uscore

[Ayrshire Chris]

9 minutes ago, stuie said:

 

For Sunday I'll be tethering a laptop to my mobile 4G/5G I think! 

Makes the data entry easier 🙂

 

Yes, I’m going to connect I pad to my phone data and with my pc up to the router. 
 

which is what I’ve done for years now and had success!😉😊

Edited November 15, 2024 by Ayrshire Chris

[MilkyJoe]

36 minutes ago, Avalon_Fields said:

Help me understand, with large numbers stuck on 2 bars, surely there must be 2 queues, one a holding group for the majority trying, then the real queue once anybody progresses further. If everyone on at the sale time was in a single random queue then surely you’d see some progress even if it’s only a bar or two? 

My theory. Everybody starts on 2 bars then your queue number determines how fast or slowly you progress up the status bar.

 

But what about people that never moved from 2 bars? I think there must be a predetermined number of entrants to the actual booking page correlating to the number of tickets available, say for the sake of argument 20,000. So if you're queue number is over 40,000 then you're never ever going to move forward.🤷‍♂️

[smogo]

I'm going to stand on a chair so that my phone is nearer the satellites.

[CantWaitForGlasto22]

If anyone knows how to do a poll on here it would be interesting to know from those who got tickets if they got in 

- mobile using wifi

- mobile using data

- laptop/tablet etc using wifi

- laptop/tablet using data (is that even a thing 🤔)

 

does seem like mobiles using data were more successful?

 

 

[fraybentos1]

sample sizes are tiny, everyone thinks when they get tickets they're doing something special. it is 90% luck and 10% being vaguely competent.

[glast0gal]

Breakdown of last night from my perspective. Partner and I were trying on a laptop each (Wi-Fi connection) and then just my phone on a decent 4G signal (partner's phone has a very poor mobile data signal in our flat!) Joined the queue just before half past ish.

 

I made some tracks with my phone on the mobile data - got into the ticket buying page at 18:20 ish. Selected Wednesday (because why wouldn't you) only to be facing the very, very limited dregs of what was left. Refreshed my way through a few 'all tickets allocated' screens to no avail and, when I tried to move to the Thursday options, it wanted me to re-join the queue. Felt good to see the ticket buying page but it was horrible knowing that my chances of bagging tickets for a group of 6 were basically shot to pieces by the time I was there.

[The Nal]

Probably about 20 devices last night in our group. Phones, laptops, desktops, tablets, 1GB wifi, 5G data, 2MB via VPNs from a sorts of countries. 2 green bars everywhere.  

[incident]

59 minutes ago, mjtko said:

 as it's more difficult to fake coming from a mobile device/browser and so they're more likely genuine.

 

That is, at best, very debatable.

 

 

[mjtko]

[Re: confirmation bias]

1 hour ago, fraybentos1 said:

It is. It's just random and most people only have a small sample size.

I tend to agree.

 

[Re: mobile browsers being more likely to be genuine/harder to fake leading to higher ranking]

4 minutes ago, incident said:

That is, at best, very debatable.

Also tend to agree.

 

As a professional cynic I remain sceptical of how truly random the queueing is and whether there are heuristics that could be being applied. It's irrelevant of course and the actual chances of getting through are almost certainly entirely down to luck.

 

My observations, opinions and theories are very much just that -- I have just been sharing in case others may benefit from them.

[idb]

17 hours ago, rhyscork said:

Only one of our groups (out of 4) got tickets, they logged on from a mobile at 18:02! 

This is probably the most interesting snippet from the past few pages. Suggesting even joining after the sale has begun you have a change of being nearer to the front of the queue that those that joined at 18.00.

[incident]

1 minute ago, mjtko said:

As a professional cynic I remain sceptical of how truly random the queueing is and whether there are heuristics that could be being applied. It's irrelevant of course and the actual chances of getting through are almost certainly entirely down to luck.

 

Yeah - it's broadly true to say that computers don't "do" random - there'll certainly be some formula at play, creating a psuedo-random order.

 

But I don't think there's any chance it'll be as simple as being down to browser, connection type, queue joining time, or anything else that we could easily replicate with predictable success. Not wasting my time even trying to attack it from that perspective.