Victorious Festival 2025

[sisco]

11 minutes ago, Dales said:

 

I would love that trio, I just feel that Pulp & Florence And The Machine may be to strong and expensive for Victorious. That's the sort of lineup I feel they should be aiming for even if it means clipping a few medium sized acts to make it happen. I think your average punter only really cares about the headliners, weather and price of food and a pint.

 

I think your trio would shift a lot of tickets.

Do you know what, I disagree with that as loads of the families seem to head for the exits before the headliner even starts.   Thats why I think they do really well with that early ish guest spot plus full of the stuff for the 40 + brigade 

[DomDom1984]

Kasabian are also bigger now than last time. Why would they co headline?

 

If The Prodigy are doing Boardmasters, I don't see them at this.

[Dales]

2 minutes ago, sisco said:

Do you know what, I disagree with that as loads of the families seem to head for the exits before the headliner even starts.   Thats why I think they do really well with that early ish guest spot plus full of the stuff for the 40 + brigade 

 

I doubt very few people will spend a lot of money on tickets to see the undercard alone unless you are the sort of people who hang around on efestivals. Yeah, if you have family, care duties of course you will put their needs first and not be that bothered by always  seeing the last acts.

 

The special guest afternoon slot is genius and as you say works well for families but I don't think clipping a few of the other afternoon/early evening acts would put families off from buying tickets. However, cuting the family stuff would.

 

I know lots of people who will only go to a festivals (one day events) if they like the headliner and really don't give a toss who is on the undercard. It's one of the reasons I now tend to go to festivals with just my partner as I like to enjoy the whole day and see new bands. I have now been to enough Victorious festivals to know its relatively quiet during the day but gets busier late on.

 

I think I could put together an impressive list of would of, could of and should have seen acts that I missed in my youth because mates (different groups) would rather sit in the pub or campsite as only interested in the last acts. Maybe its just me and its only my opinion.

 

Why do we spend so much time talking about headliners if they are not the main draw for the average punter? By the way, I dont class efestival members as "average punters" I consider them serious music fans and hence why we care about the other acts.

[northernangel]

4 minutes ago, DomDom1984 said:

Kasabian are also bigger now than last time. Why would they co headline?

 

If The Prodigy are doing Boardmasters, I don't see them at this.

Do you know that definitely with The Prodigy as that's sh*t if so. And likewise I wouldn't see them doing both, don't think it's ever happened.

 

Though as said before Kasabian did do Kendal, Y Not and Victorious, it's rare for it to happen one does all 3. 

[Dg_vic]

Victorious and boardmaster have never shared a headliner in the same year and a different demo. 
 

Very good points on Kendall and tramlines rumours for prodigy. If tramlines is announced, they are a lock in for victorious as there are always shared headliners in superstruct festivals. 
 

which leaves the final headliner, which I hope is a random and unique one as per last few years (I had hoped this would be pulp but looks like superstruct might have block booked). 
 

worst case scenario is that pulp go to boardmasters and miss victorious which would be a disaster as they are the most perfect victorious band 

Edited Sunday at 01:29 PM by Dg_vic

[Dales]

5 minutes ago, Dg_vic said:

Victorious and boardmaster have never shared a headliner in the same year and a different demo. 
 

worst case scenario is that pulp go to boardmasters and miss victorious which would be a disaster as they are the most perfect victorious band 

 

Pulp would certainly go down better at Victorious with its mixed crowd but will the money draw them to Boardmasters.

[sheffinghell]

23 minutes ago, Dg_vic said:

Victorious and boardmaster have never shared a headliner in the same year and a different demo. 
 

Very good points on Kendall and tramlines rumours for prodigy. If tramlines is announced, they are a lock in for victorious as there are always shared headliners in superstruct festivals. 
 

which leaves the final headliner, which I hope is a random and unique one as per last few years (I had hoped this would be pulp but looks like superstruct might have block booked). 
 

worst case scenario is that pulp go to boardmasters and miss victorious which would be a disaster as they are the most perfect victorious band 

Prodigy announced for Kendal and Y Not so far, so presumably could be also on for either of Victorious/Boardmasters (both Superstruct, but targeted at different demographics) under a multi-festival deal. Could also appear next year if they're not on this year.

 

Not sure how much cross-over there is for Superstruct UK and Europe, but Pulp also did 3 Nordic festivals owned by them last year.

Edited Sunday at 01:53 PM by sheffinghell

[sisco]

23 minutes ago, Dales said:

 

I doubt very few people will spend a lot of money on tickets to see the undercard alone unless you are the sort of people who hang around on efestivals. Yeah, if you have family, care duties of course you will put their needs first and not be that bothered by always  seeing the last acts.

 

The special guest afternoon slot is genius and as you say works well for families but I don't think clipping a few of the other afternoon/early evening acts would put families off from buying tickets. However, cuting the family stuff would.

 

I know lots of people who will only go to a festivals (one day events) if they like the headliner and really don't give a toss who is on the undercard. It's one of the reasons I now tend to go to festivals with just my partner as I like to enjoy the whole day and see new bands. I have now been to enough Victorious festivals to know its relatively quiet during the day but gets busier late on.

 

I think I could put together an impressive list of would of, could of and should have seen acts that I missed in my youth because mates (different groups) would rather sit in the pub or campsite as only interested in the last acts. Maybe its just me and its only my opinion.

 

Why do we spend so much time talking about headliners if they are not the main draw for the average punter? By the way, I dont class efestival members as "average punters" I consider them serious music fans and hence why we care about the other acts.

😂, glad you added the bit at the end as I was just about to jump on it.

 

Im speaking from families myself, my mate who comes every year has never seen a headliner, we skipped one or left early other years, we situate ourselves next to the exit (until we found a better one on Sunday this year) and there are lots leaving.  Maybe as a proportion it’s small.  There’s lots of locals there and tbf they go because of the location too and not who’s playing.

 

anyway, don’t suppose it matters too much, they’ll carry on doing what’s been successful

[DomDom1984]

32 minutes ago, northernangel said:

Do you know that definitely with The Prodigy as that's sh*t if so. And likewise I wouldn't see them doing both, don't think it's ever happened.

 

Though as said before Kasabian did do Kendal, Y Not and Victorious, it's rare for it to happen one does all 3. 

 

Seen it mentioned in here. Which means nothing obviously. I do think that's where they'll end up though.

[Dales]

1 minute ago, sisco said:

😂, glad you added the bit at the end as I was just about to jump on it.

 

Im speaking from families myself, my mate who comes every year has never seen a headliner, we skipped one or left early other years, we situate ourselves next to the exit (until we found a better one on Sunday this year) and there are lots leaving.  Maybe as a proportion it’s small.  There’s lots of locals there and tbf they go because of the location too and not who’s playing.

 

anyway, don’t suppose it matters too much, they’ll carry on doing what’s been successful

 

I really like Victorious and think its a great fest. I enjoy the fact that it offers so much to so many different people and don't want it to move away from appealing to families and locals. It does so many things well and delivery a great experience.

 

As, I travel from London and factoring in travel and hotel costs I like to see a decent amount of the ticket price spent on the headliners to justify the cost. For me the cheap part of Victorious is the ticket price.

[sisco]

1 minute ago, Dales said:

 

I really like Victorious and think its a great fest. I enjoy the fact that it offers so much to so many different people and don't want it to move away from appealing to families and locals. It does so many things well and delivery a great experience.

 

As, I travel from London and factoring in travel and hotel costs I like to see a decent amount of the ticket price spent on the headliners to justify the cost. For me the cheap part of Victorious is the ticket price.

Yeah fully understand mate.  We're knocking on the head now as the kids have got older so it’s not really beneficial with the additional costs involved.  Would massively reccomend it though 

[northernangel]

33 minutes ago, Dg_vic said:

Victorious and boardmaster have never shared a headliner in the same year and a different demo. 
 

Very good points on Kendall and tramlines rumours for prodigy. If tramlines is announced, they are a lock in for victorious as there are always shared headliners in superstruct festivals. 
 

which leaves the final headliner, which I hope is a random and unique one as per last few years (I had hoped this would be pulp but looks like superstruct might have block booked). 
 

worst case scenario is that pulp go to boardmasters and miss victorious which would be a disaster as they are the most perfect victorious band 

 

10 minutes ago, DomDom1984 said:

 

Seen it mentioned in here. Which means nothing obviously. I do think that's where they'll end up though.

 

Worth a big mention in here as this has come up that in the last 3 years at least Boardmasters have not shared a headliner with Y Not or Tramlines. I've also gone to 2021 but can't remember every festival that happened in 2021. 

 

 

I would say that makes for either of those two bigger one's Victorious more likely. The thing is as well, Victorious has the edge of others if the bands want to play multiple shows whereas Boardmasters get who they get but they are more exclusive 

[northernangel]

12 minutes ago, Dales said:

 

I really like Victorious and think its a great fest. I enjoy the fact that it offers so much to so many different people and don't want it to move away from appealing to families and locals. It does so many things well and delivery a great experience.

 

As, I travel from London and factoring in travel and hotel costs I like to see a decent amount of the ticket price spent on the headliners to justify the cost. For me the cheap part of Victorious is the ticket price.

I agree here personally. Because Victorious is so far away, the cost is reasonable but with travel etc on top the headliners need to suit. This yesr the Biffy Day was decent for me and the Fatboy day wasn't the worst but just made it a pain being separate days.

[Dg_vic]

In 9 years of Victorious, I have only seen 5 headliners to conclusion. My kids have been going since age 3 and circumstances mean we very rarely stay to the end with them. 
 

last year, the exodus after Lathums to either sugababes or home was incredible and courteeners / Jamie t the smallest crowd I have seen for a headliner. 
 

it’s a day festival and I hope it stays that way as it suits me and the family. Many happy memories created there. 

[NorthernSoul52]

Are The Reytons actually of any notable size outside of South Yorkshire? Thought it was a purely regional love affair.

[sheffinghell]

32 minutes ago, NorthernSoul52 said:

Are The Reytons actually of any notable size outside of South Yorkshire? Thought it was a purely regional love affair.

I think they go down well in Liverpool too, hence probably the NBHD booking, and I think they've done Kendal in the past

[Dales]

54 minutes ago, Dg_vic said:

last year, the exodus after Lathums to either sugababes or home was incredible and courteeners / Jamie t the smallest crowd I have seen for a headliner.  

 

An exodus early was a common theme last year at many a festival with Jamie T.

 

I went to Truck, Y Not and Victorious and he really was not an ideal booking. Outside his own fanbase there is little interest. The few popular tunes are saved for the end of the gig and most people will have given up by then. He should have been on Castle where his own acolytes could enjoy the show.

 

I get that loads of people with families will need to leave early and a festival can be draining anyway. I have binned off loads of headliners I like because the people I am with or me and tired, its wet etc. That's why I think headliners are important as it gives you a reason to stay to the end, peoplel streaming out the exits is potential lost money at the stalls.

 

I stayed to the bitter end of the Jamie T set at Truck to give the lad a chance. Will not be making that mistake again, fool me once and all that and unlikly to be rushing to buy tickets to any festival that has him as a headliner again. 

[Kingkev]

Well I for one love courteeners new and old stuff and really enjoyed set right near front and watched Jamie t for first time as always missed before at events and thought he was great. Horses for courses i suppose

[Dales]

9 minutes ago, Kingkev said:

Well I for one love courteeners new and old stuff and really enjoyed set right near front and watched Jamie t for first time as always missed before at events and thought he was great. Horses for courses i suppose

 

I tend to respect people's opinions on music but I feel Jamie T would need to have improved drastically from his Truck performance to be ok. Although, I don't know how he was at Victorious as I went to see Pixies.

 

Saw the last part of his single loaded end of the set at Ynot as I caught it after Frank Turner finished on another stage and he was awful and so bad people were openly laughing about it. His band ain't bad and do a lotof theheavy lifting. As you say horses for courses and nice to hear some positives as other then the Finsbury park gig (his own fans) most feedback seems to be that he is poor these days.

[FestivalJamie]

I also went to see Pixies over Jamie T at Victorious. To be honest, I had no interest in Jamie T whatsoever and it was a very ‘weak’ Saturday night headliner booking , given you either know him or you don’t - he’s not a household name with songs everyone knows .

[Dg_vic]

24 minutes ago, FestivalJamie said:

I also went to see Pixies over Jamie T at Victorious. To be honest, I had no interest in Jamie T whatsoever and it was a very ‘weak’ Saturday night headliner booking , given you either know him or you don’t - he’s not a household name with songs everyone knows .

Just to be clear, I am a big Jamie T apologist (seen him 15ish times) but booking him for victorious was a misstep. Outside of London he should not be headlining main stages. 

[jonnytee1]

4 hours ago, northernangel said:

I agree here personally. Because Victorious is so far away, the cost is reasonable but with travel etc on top the headliners need to suit. This yesr the Biffy Day was decent for me and the Fatboy day wasn't the worst but just made it a pain being separate days.

You also need to remortgage your house if you want to get drunk and eat there too don’t forget 

[northernangel]

34 minutes ago, jonnytee1 said:

You also need to remortgage your house if you want to get drunk and eat there too don’t forget 

I've not been since 2016 but I suspect so.

[charlierc]

3 hours ago, Dales said:

I stayed to the bitter end of the Jamie T set at Truck to give the lad a chance. Will not be making that mistake again, fool me once and all that and unlikly to be rushing to buy tickets to any festival that has him as a headliner again. 

When I went to Truck I stayed to the end of Two Door's set on the Sunday then went home. Helped I live an hour's drive or so from there and don't drink I guess.

 

By that logic I could've left even earlier if they'd booked such a choice in 2019.

[NorthernSoul52]

Can't pass judgement on Jamie T in recent times, but Courteeners are one of those with some deceptively good tunes in their catalogue that won't get the affection because they're not off-cuts from St. Jude.

 

Fray was in a funny mood in Leeds the other night - seemed quite agitated. Bizarrely was stood next to him to watch The Strokes at Lytham a few years ago and he was effervescently down to earth and charming then.