I think it’s because at that point you are on a holding page on See’s servers and are no longer on the queue-it system.
Am I right in thinking that you only get 10 mins of f5ing before your token runs out?
Hmm looking back - the avalanche headliners were a lot smaller than Ally Pally last year (Busted were an outlier).
Can swap Slayer and Rise Against round then.
Idles - not sure their other fest rules them out but we'll see.