EOTR 2025 line-up speculation topic

[jplewes]

Clap Your Hands Say Yeah playing festival in Belgium 14 Sept, and two dates in Hackney later in the month. Could add EOTR and a few European dates earlier in the month?

[paulwa]

On 11/20/2024 at 5:10 PM, jplewes said:

Clap Your Hands Say Yeah playing festival in Belgium 14 Sept, and two dates in Hackney later in the month. Could add EOTR and a few European dates earlier in the month?

They played EOTR wayyyyyyyyyyy back, so it's on their radar, and it would be great to see them again.

[Watergirl]

On 9/9/2024 at 5:18 PM, robith said:

I believe Mardy is referring to acts who have maybe reformed but aren't releasing/playing any new music and just trading on nostalgia

Think that's a fair definition. I am against heritage acts on principle, but have seen for ex. the Jesus & Mary Chain, Slowdive and the Pixies at EOTR, none of which felt like a nostalgia acts.

[Dark Star]

3 hours ago, Watergirl said:

Think that's a fair definition. I am against heritage acts on principle, but have seen for ex. the Jesus & Mary Chain, Slowdive and the Pixies at EOTR, none of which felt like a nostalgia acts.

 

Haven't JAMC and Slowdive put out new stuff as well as touring? Pixies have now released more since reforming than the first time around. 

[SweepingTheNation]

1 hour ago, Dark Star said:

 

Haven't JAMC and Slowdive put out new stuff as well as touring? Pixies have now released more since reforming than the first time around. 

 

I have a feeling this was discussed earlier in the thread but Simon has said in an interview that he'll only consider a heritage act if they have something new to offer as well.

[Mardy]

Genuine question, the Mary Chain mean more to me than 99.9% of bands. They got me through my teenage years, and had a formative influence on me. But does anyone really give a f**k what they do now? They're never going to reach those Darklands/Psychocandy heights. I adore this band, but yeah, they're a heritage/retro act now, no doubt about it. Is anybody really excited to see what they do next? Or is the reality that they haven't been vital and truly thrilling for 35 years? Yeah, the new album is 'alright', but no more and you can't in all seriousness say it's epoch defining in the way the first two albums were.

[xxialac]

On 9/9/2024 at 10:42 PM, accordionandvoice said:

I'd have thought Mercury Rev would be headline worthy (Thursday, at least) but seeing them billed below BC Lamplight, Kneecap, Warmduscher and Jane Weaver (Solo) on the Mutations line up is a little concerning... Garden headliners at best I'd think

I saw them at Mutations and they were very disappointing. For one thing, his voice has gone. 

[Hooskerdoo]

1 hour ago, Mardy said:

Genuine question, the Mary Chain mean more to me than 99.9% of bands. They got me through my teenage years, and had a formative influence on me. But does anyone really give a f**k what they do now? They're never going to reach those Darklands/Psychocandy heights. I adore this band, but yeah, they're a heritage/retro act now, no doubt about it. Is anybody really excited to see what they do next? Or is the reality that they haven't been vital and truly thrilling for 35 years? Yeah, the new album is 'alright', but no more and you can't in all seriousness say it's epoch defining in the way the first two albums were.

The new JAMC album has tracks that range from the pretty good to the absolutely abysmal. The whole thing is average at best. Same as the last couple, and anything post-reunion by Pixies. I think this shows that the "only if they have recorded new material" criterion is no more than a meaningless technicality. The bottom line for any band's booking will be whether or not Simon wants them.

[Olshansky]

another vote for Beth Gibbons here.  

 

also on my wish list:

 

Bingo Fury 

Benefits

WH Lung 

Foxwarren

Andrew Bird

Sasami 

Just Mustard 

Joan as Policewoman

 

[noisenoiseandmorenoise]

I think I've worked it out. 

Beak> are given the Garden headline slot on Friday as a 'goodbye' show (at least for Geoff).

Beth Gibbons headlines the same stage on Saturday.

Adrian Utley pops up at The Boat with one of his drone sets .

And hey what do you know-who is that secret Sunday headliner? Welcome Portishead.

 

[shoebox]

16 hours ago, Hooskerdoo said:

I think this shows that the "only if they have recorded new material" criterion is no more than a meaningless technicality. The bottom line for any band's booking will be whether or not Simon wants them.

Exactly. If he were offered Tom Waits he'd be champing at the bit to book him despite him being a "legacy act" and not having released anything since 2011's "Bad As Me"

[edwinizza]

Talking of hoary old indie bands who might still be worthy, MBV look likely to tour next year (although so far just announced a one-off in Dublin)

[Watergirl]

On 11/24/2024 at 9:33 PM, Dark Star said:

 

Haven't JAMC and Slowdive put out new stuff as well as touring? Pixies have now released more since reforming than the first time around. 

Yes they have. I was agreeing with the definition I quoted in my reply. Having new music is what makes it okay basically - for me anyway.

Edited yesterday at 01:54 PM by Watergirl

[Olshansky]

9 hours ago, noisenoiseandmorenoise said:

I think I've worked it out. 

Beak> are given the Garden headline slot on Friday as a 'goodbye' show (at least for Geoff).

Beth Gibbons headlines the same stage on Saturday.

Adrian Utley pops up at The Boat with one of his drone sets .

And hey what do you know-who is that secret Sunday headliner? Welcome Portishead.

 

 

I would sob

[Yoss]

The mere fact of having new music out doesn't mean you aren't a legacy act. You still need to have some current creative energy. If having new records out gave Simon the excuse to book Pixies, that's up to him - but let's not pretend that new music was any part of the reason anyone wanted to see them.

[CanWeRest]

True. I haven't listened to any of the new stuff by Pixies. Not that I think it'll be bad, I just don't have the appetite for it. They have seminal works out there, and they won't top that.

[Hooskerdoo]

8 minutes ago, CanWeRest said:

True. I haven't listened to any of the new stuff by Pixies. Not that I think it'll be bad, I just don't have the appetite for it. They have seminal works out there, and they won't top that.

I thought the first two post-reunion Pixies albums were the best, though still pretty average and not a touch on anything from the original incarnation. If memory serves, they didn't play anything from them at EotR in 2022. It was a greatest hits set, with a few from the new album at the time, the aptly-titled Doggerel. And nobody was there for those tracks. I have listened to the new album once. That was enough.

[CanWeRest]

16 hours ago, Hooskerdoo said:

I thought the first two post-reunion Pixies albums were the best, though still pretty average and not a touch on anything from the original incarnation. If memory serves, they didn't play anything from them at EotR in 2022. It was a greatest hits set, with a few from the new album at the time, the aptly-titled Doggerel. And nobody was there for those tracks. I have listened to the new album once. That was enough.

 

I've listened to the odd track of their new stuff, but nothing instantly grabbed me.

[emmanuel]

Stereolab have not released any new album, but are not really more of a legacy act than Pixies, JAMC and Slowdive. So the "new music" thing is quite arbitrary.

I could understand that one wants to restrict bands that have been playing the same setlist everywhere for the last 20 years (there are many), but there is a thin line between this being offensive (band is too old) and right.

[SweepingTheNation]

2 hours ago, emmanuel said:

Stereolab have not released any new album, but are not really more of a legacy act than Pixies, JAMC and Slowdive. So the "new music" thing is quite arbitrary.

I could understand that one wants to restrict bands that have been playing the same setlist everywhere for the last 20 years (there are many), but there is a thin line between this being offensive (band is too old) and right.

 

Stereolab was also 2021, and I don't think we can attribute anything from that year as definite future policy. I'm also not sure we should include Slowdive alongside Pixies types given they're currently much bigger than they were the first time round.

 

I think the latter is somewhere near what Simon is getting at - active bands who are still creative but not those reforming for specious anniversaries or easy millennial nostalgia.