Sign Petition to help all Bands get Artist tickets to play Glasto

[JamieInPeace]

Hi all,

 

I posted the link to this below petition on Reddit but sadly the message was lost somewhat due to it turning in to a debate. If you read the below Petition and feel obliged to sign then your support will be most welcome. If you don't agree, then that's fine too but please remember what a terrible state the grassroots scene is in and how much it costs to tour. As we note in the final paragraph in the below link "This petition is about ensuring fair treatment for all musicians at all stages of their careers, and promoting the vibrant grassroots music scene at large which forms the backbone of such a globally recognised festival".  

 

Artist Tickets for All Performers at Glastonbury (Hosted by Change.Org)

 

Many thanks,

 

Jamie 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 01:32 PM by StoneCircle
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[Skip997]

Signed 

[JamieInPeace]

Many thanks! 

[belfast]

Unfortunately this has been a thing for many years. Not just with Glastonbury but with artists 'buying into a support slot'.

 

The reason promoters etc do this, is often these bands (such as yourselves) will draw next to no fans usually to these shows so in reality to the promoter you're offering very little. They do this as a backup financial safety net, say that show they're promoting isn't selling well, they let bands aka you buy onto that support slot position which in essence is covering the fee of ticket sales they're losing out on.

 

Obviously Glastonbury do not fall into this with a festival not struggling by any means to shift tickets but TBF speaking as a former live preforming artist I probably would pay the money to play Glastonbury given the chance. Say you do decide to play it, you're realistically going to be playing to no-one however being able to put that on your socials etc will do wonders for you whether it be trying to land a local support slot opening and being able to mail that promoter you've played Glastonbury or whatever. 

 

As I'm sure you're well aware small bands etc pay far more than you make and that's just part of it. 

 

You've a chance to say you played Glastonbury & you're debating it? I'm not one at all for buying into support slots etc and never have but this sort of thing is the exception. Give the chance to the majority of other musicians be it rightly or wrongly they'll probably take it.

 

My advice is do not be letting the chance go.

Edited Tuesday at 03:26 PM by belfast

[DeanoL]

Part of the issue is that Glasto's open structure means every performer *needs* a full weekend ticket. If you're an arena festival, you can just give acts on smaller stages and lower down the bill single-day tickets, essentially tripling the ticket allocation available. And those tickets are actually worth more than the fee a lot of acts at that level would get. (Because we know they can easily be sold for £385 each).

 

It is a rubbish system for acts, but honestly I'd rather they just commit to paying every act a £100 minimum so no-one is working for free. That's 3000 acts so £300,000 which is less than they pay for a headliner or £2.22 extra per ticket. It means some acts would still be "making a loss" if they weren't actually interested in being at the festival, but it'd be a more manageable fix.

[JamieInPeace]

1 hour ago, belfast said:

Unfortunately this has been a thing for many years. Not just with Glastonbury but with artists 'buying into a support slot'.

 

The reason promoters etc do this, is often these bands (such as yourselves) will draw next to no fans usually to these shows so in reality to the promoter you're offering very little. They do this as a backup financial safety net, say that show they're promoting isn't selling well, they let bands aka you buy onto that support slot position which in essence is covering the fee of ticket sales they're losing out on.

 

Obviously Glastonbury do not fall into this with a festival not struggling by any means to shift tickets but TBF speaking as a former live preforming artist I probably would pay the money to play Glastonbury given the chance. Say you do decide to play it, you're realistically going to be playing to no-one however being able to put that on your socials etc will do wonders for you whether it be trying to land a local support slot opening and being able to mail that promoter you've played Glastonbury or whatever. 

 

As I'm sure you're well aware small bands etc pay far more than you make and that's just part of it. 

 

You've a chance to say you played Glastonbury & you're debating it? I'm not one at all for buying into support slots etc and never have but this sort of thing is the exception. Give the chance to the majority of other musicians be it rightly or wrongly they'll probably take it.

 

My advice is do not be letting the chance go.

 

Thanks for engaging on this topic. I've played Glastonbury 4 times with various bands by method of getting in via buying tickets or working but we are living in really harsh times for bands right now, particularly on the touring and festival circuit.  The PR of playing Glastonbury can really help temporarily boost your standing, but i'd argue it's not worth the £2.5k a band of four people have to pay to play it by the time they've bought tickets, paid for travel, and spent money at the festival. We all love the festival, we're just looking to effect some form of change in the years ahead by sharing what some bands have to do in order to play.  

 

Thanks again

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 05:10 PM by JamieInPeace

[giantkatestacks]

Don't some bands or acts make it work by doing a Glastonbury stage and then one of the hospitality set-ups as well which presumably is paid?

[Johnnyseven]

When I was in a band we'd be lucky to get 50 quid between us for a gig. Expecting 4 x £385 for a gig at Glasto would be a bit of a stretch.

Edited Tuesday at 06:14 PM by Johnnyseven

[stuie]

I don’t think this is petition worthy really - an artist/band is made an offer which they choose to accept or reject. 
 

If you don’t like the offer, don’t play. It’s really as simple as that.  We discussed this last year when Dutty Moonshine complained that they had to do 2 shows to get enough band tickets for their 12 band members. 
 

If the offer isn’t good enough, move on! No obligation.

[CharlotteB]

Agreed. I do twelve hours for my ticket. I wouldn't want to see a band do half an hour of what they love doing anyway and get a free Glastonbury ticket for it. That doesn't seem right considering all the grafters that make the event possible.

[belfast]

2 hours ago, stuie said:

I don’t think this is petition worthy really - an artist/band is made an offer which they choose to accept or reject. 
 

If you don’t like the offer, don’t play. It’s really as simple as that.  We discussed this last year when Dutty Moonshine complained that they had to do 2 shows to get enough band tickets for their 12 band members. 
 

If the offer isn’t good enough, move on! No obligation.

Agree entirely. Gigged all around for years and still agree.

[Skip997]

5 hours ago, CharlotteB said:

Agreed. I do twelve hours for my ticket. I wouldn't want to see a band do half an hour of what they love doing anyway and get a free Glastonbury ticket for it. That doesn't seem right considering all the grafters that make the event possible.

Fair point 

 

They should have made Elton serve burgers for 12 hours 

[stuie]

14 minutes ago, Skip997 said:

Fair point 

 

They should have made Elton serve burgers for 12 hours 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 06:43 PM by stuie

[Gnomicide]

5 hours ago, CharlotteB said:

Agreed. I do twelve hours for my ticket. I wouldn't want to see a band do half an hour of what they love doing anyway and get a free Glastonbury ticket for it. That doesn't seem right considering all the grafters that make the event possible.

 

Is anyone entertained by your 12 hours?

[Neil]

On 11/12/2024 at 1:38 PM, Skip997 said:

Signed 

Are you giving up your free ticket to let a band have it 

[Skip997]

1 minute ago, Neil said:

Are you giving up your free ticket to let a band have it 

What do reckon? 

[Neil]

Just now, Skip997 said:

What do reckon? 

Easy question.

[CanWeRest]

I'd sign a petition for every ticket to be free 😹

[Superscally]

I presumed all bands/artists/performers got tickets...

[Suprefan]

8 minutes ago, Superscally said:

I presumed all bands/artists/performers got tickets...

 

glasto isnt for profit so they could literally never afford to do such a thing.

[Neil]

13 minutes ago, Superscally said:

I presumed all bands/artists/performers got tickets...

not all because a stage is allocated a set number of tickets for that stage, before bookings are made. So the stage manager will have to allocate the tickets to the booked bands 

[CharlotteB]

1 hour ago, Gnomicide said:

 

Is anyone entertained by your 12 hours?

 

Did I say 12? I meant 24 hours! And it facilitates entertainment. The people who set up the Pyramid Stage aren't entertaining anyone, but they're certainly necessary. 

[JamieInPeace]

19 hours ago, Superscally said:

I presumed all bands/artists/performers got tickets...

 

No they don't hence the petition. Glastonbury could totally make it happen, it would just mean trimming down on the amount of freebies and +1s they give to the bigger acts and to the fawning media they get in to cover the festival. 

 

 

 

[JamieInPeace]

20 hours ago, Skip997 said:

Fair point 

 

They should have made Elton serve burgers for 12 hours 

 

One rule for them one rule for us. Why the hell not? 😅

[stuie]

8 minutes ago, JamieInPeace said:

 

No they don't hence the petition. Glastonbury could totally make it happen, it would just mean trimming down on the amount of freebies and +1s they give to the bigger acts and to the fawning media they get in to cover the festival. 

 

That means giving up cheap (free) media coverage and influencer exposure. 

Why would they do this when there's a queue of small bands and aspiring artists waiting in the wings?