What's changed?

[dulcificum]

44 minutes ago, Talcroft said:

Ketamine and coke are the in drugs rather than mdma and pills. People's behaviour has changed accordingly. 

 

Visually the site is so much more interesting, except the lost alleyways of Shangri-La - much missed. 

Nonsense. There's just as much MD as there every was. Probably more coke but I don't know anyone who does coke. And I think most people see people doing bumps and think it's coke when it's actually happy loved up people who can do K and still be sociable.

 

There's less acid than there used to be but probably more mushrooms barring a few years.

[Skip997]

1 minute ago, dulcificum said:

Nonsense. There's just as much MD as there every was. Probably more coke but I don't know anyone who does coke. And I think most people see people doing bumps and think it's coke when it's actually happy loved up people who can do K and still be sociable.

 

There's less acid than there used to be but probably more mushrooms barring a few years.

I’ve often wondered about folks doing bumps as to whether it’s coke or K (both are sh*t drugs) as it’s impossible to tell at a distance. Often thought it must be K as who can afford that much coke. 
 

[Talcroft]

16 minutes ago, dulcificum said:

Nonsense. There's just as much MD as there every was. Probably more coke but I don't know anyone who does coke. And I think most people see people doing bumps and think it's coke when it's actually happy loved up people who can do K and still be sociable.

 

There's less acid than there used to be but probably more mushrooms barring a few years.

 

Fwiw I don't think all the coke takers are habitual, they're using it to power through a mad weekend that would otherwise see them on their arse by Friday. It works but also makes them self absorbed and judgy. 

 

I'm sure there's still plenty of MD and pills around, but youngsters can't afford it and swapped it out with K. Had a good chat with an unnamed user of this forum about it at Levels last year. Sure many are still chill but by 11pm the zombies start to come out cos they've been at it all day. They don't dance, they don't talk, they're really boring. 

 

Govt data suggests coke use static, ketamine and other psychoactives up, ecstasy down (retrospective data so perhaps not totally concurrent): 

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/drugmisuseinenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2023#:~:text=The majority of people aged,users was similar (67.6%).

[BlackZeppelin]

2 hours ago, Skip997 said:

True

When was the last time the predominant smell at a stage or venue was weed. 
 

Sad sign of the times and part of the reason why the vibe is changing for the worse.

 

Too much alcohol, coke, NOS and Ketamine.

Not enough weed, LSD, mushrooms and MDMA

Weed is so hard to buy at the festival. Everything else seems easy to get hold of, but a nice joint at the end of a night is tough to organise.

Used to be able to by dope cake of little old hippy women at the Stone Circle , haven't seen that for a while now.

[Skip997]

6 minutes ago, BlackZeppelin said:

Weed is so hard to buy at the festival. Everything else seems easy to get hold of, but a nice joint at the end of a night is tough to organise.

Used to be able to by dope cake of little old hippy women at the Stone Circle , haven't seen that for a while now.

Its easy if you know the right people, but yeah it’s not really on offer.

 

Problem is there’s CCTV and undercover cops everywhere 

Edited 1 hour ago by Skip997