How I would fix the ticket system

[Leyrulion]

55 minutes ago, tigger123 said:

Only just had this idea so not really thought it through but I like the idea others have mentioned of having to enter your reg number in order to access the queue to reduce the multiple windows etc (like others have said they do for their football clubs). I like the idea mainly because it would stop people being able to buy bots to game the system etc.

 

However, the concern was around people then just making loads of different registrations. A way around this could be to charge a certain amount for registration, say £10 or something and then that can be used for 5 years' worth of sales or something like that. Now again I know it's not ideal to introduce more costs to people but £10 is something I think pretty much everyone would be able to afford (essentially £2 per year) especially if it bought them access to a few years' worth of sales, yet would act as a deterrent to those who would contemplate creating loads of extras. This charge money could then all go towards paying for people at See to look through for any duplicate registrations. This would hopefully have the effect of justifying the charge to the majority who are concerned the system isn't fair by assuring them they are paying a small amount to make the system fairer and would hopefully discourage the more wealthy who would consider paying for loads of registrations, given they would be doing so in the knowledge that they stand a strong chance of being found out and having those duplicate registrations deleted and the money they paid for them lost. Slightly annoying obviously if you don't get tickets and have paid £10 but as this would be buying you access for 5 years worth of sales, you would only be losing £2, which let's be honest should be affordable to everyone is able to fork out £400 for a ticket and all the costs of attending the festival.

 

This obviously would have to start with everyone's existing reg details being deleted and everyone having to re-register.

 

Appreciate this is unlikely and again I reiterate this is an idea I've only just had so isn't properly thought out but keen to hear what others think.

So I'd interpret that as I pay for a new registration each year. Different email, address, phone, photo. Over time would build up to five attempts. They probably wouldn't be able to tell without facial recognition software which they'd probably have to re-consent everyone on the database to use (imagine how that would go down). Chances of being caught would (quite literally) be 1 in a million. 

 

I'd also have my regular group make a new registration each year to do the same. Would make sure the friends who decided not to go this year and still had some years left on their registration gave me their details as well. 

 

So that would quickly run me up to about 20 attempts. 

 

My point here is that every possible scheme has flaws and work arounds to improve your chances.

Edited 7 hours ago by Leyrulion

[Toilet Duck]

19 minutes ago, Gnomicide said:

 

I was reading through this thread, prepping myself to type something similar but no doubt less eloquent. 

 

There seem to be a lot of people wishing everyone has a really sh*t festival one year, just to make it easier to get a ticket the following year. Absolutely baffling opinion.

Ah, when you miss out it’s disappointing so as fanatics about the festival we come up with some out there suggestions. It’s almost grief! But yeah, can’t understand the idea that it’s awful for once just to dampen down demand a bit…I hope it’s one for the ages and all the newbies that got a ticket are converted for life like I was many moons ago. Having missed out before, I’m entirely ok with it (I did enquire at Yurtel about how much it would be for one of their packages, but even they have quadrupled the price of their cheapest option this year and much as I’d like to go, I don’t wanna go THAT much!). Maybe it’s time I put my hand up to volunteer since I’ve gotten so much joy from the festival over the years and I should give something back (have done so at Irish festivals, but not Glastonbury yet). The crazy ideas always die down and we deal with whatever ticket buying system comes next. Some years we’ll be lucky, others not so much. 

Edited 7 hours ago by Toilet Duck
Typo!

[Peroni]

18 hours ago, gooner1990 said:

Another way (which I know wouldn't be popular) would be to get rid of the deposit system.

 You used to have x2 options.  The full ticket price path was always simpler....

 

Back then you couldnt use credit cards either....

[Peroni]

11 hours ago, stuie said:

 

Not as a first time festival, not anywhere near a significant percentage.  It's too hard to get tickets and too big for most people to see it as an entry point.  

 

Of course BBC attract people - that's the whole point of them. 

In 2009 it was my first fest... not statistically valid but it does happen....

 

I was dragged by my boyfriend now husband to attend it... his family had been for years.

 

 

[TravSC]

The obvious and very easy ways to fix this are (as others have pointed out) only allowing one queue entry per registration, ensuring the lead booker is buying tix for themselves & going from 6 tix to 4 max. Unless you’re a complete tech geek, the work-arounds to circumvent this dry up super quick with the above.

Mind you, I’d allow resales and whatever price that fetches so be it……like other products & services in our lives we choose what we want to spend money on…..if I’d rather spend $3k on a Glasto ticket than go to Hawaii that should be a choice I can freely make, no? This current system of tech nerds & folks with big groups using spreadsheets……a weird middle ground that doesn’t feel right at all.

 

[Alvoram]

56 minutes ago, TravSC said:

The obvious and very easy ways to fix this are (as others have pointed out) only allowing one queue entry per registration, ensuring the lead booker is buying tix for themselves & going from 6 tix to 4 max. Unless you’re a complete tech geek, the work-arounds to circumvent this dry up super quick with the above.

Mind you, I’d allow resales and whatever price that fetches so be it……like other products & services in our lives we choose what we want to spend money on…..if I’d rather spend $3k on a Glasto ticket than go to Hawaii that should be a choice I can freely make, no? This current system of tech nerds & folks with big groups using spreadsheets……a weird middle ground that doesn’t feel right at all.

 

Changing this would change the festival entirely. Big groups working together has been happening for a long time. The new version of this is tech geeks helping big groups of none tech geeks do techie things, as was seen in this sale. The previous version of it was people helping others over the fence. It's always happened in some way or another.

The greatest festival on earth is the greatest festival because of the people, the community and the vibe. Why would anybody want to change that? Bring more people into that community, and let more people experience it, especially youngsters, the future of the festival, sure, but change it beyond recognition? Surely not? 

Also, allowing ticket resales is a terrible take, it would be the worst possible thing to happen to the festival. It's a very capitalist thing to suggest, not really in keeping with the entire ethos of the festival. It would mean moving even more towards the middle and upper class demographic.  

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Alvoram

[Suprefan]

Thanks for adding layers to the system which would break the system and therefore not let anyone be able to buy tickets. Youre dealing with a B level ticket seller here. They obviously couldnt afford good enough It to make sure this sale was secure cause nobody knew what to check for despite past incidents on the same platform. And youre adding a bunch of sh*t that has a chance to fail under a high load. Thus why the previous system worked so ''well'' was because it was crude and it was obviously about effort. Now, despite being able to game the system you still have a similar situation. Its still pretty simple without extra sh*t getting in the way. Yes, there were some errors trying to get through on either purchase or registration. But thats 1 step instead of adding 3 more because you feel thats how you expose duplicates accounts etc. So you see how you think adding means itll be better? Its not. I think theyll keep it like this and take all this time right now to figure out the issues and thatll be that. Like I said in another thread, they only care about  their tickets not hitting the resale market, other than that, as long as it sells out, they dont give a sh*t how it happens. You still have a chance to be one of 50,000 that can go ''work for free'' over the festival weekend, so why arent those odds better for you than sitting in front of a computer.