WWE

[Uncle Liam]

anyone else going to the tna shows over here? going to brentwood on sunday - should be a laugh

[funkymp]

I read a report from last nights,apparently it was really good.

However, I refuse to pay to subject myself to any TNA bullshit.

[Halcyon]

Figure Four Online and Wrestling Observer have merged.

Everyone should go to www.figurefouronline.com and subscribe because for just over a fiver a month you'll get online access to Dave Meltzers newsletter, Bryan Alvarez's newsletter/blog/ramblings and some of the funniest, interesting and informative radio shows going.

Seriously, at the moment, listening to the Bryan and Vinny show when they recap WWE shows is a hell of a lot more fun than actually watching them. And they do a Lance Storm interview for about an hour every few weeks and thats always pretty damn good.

[luckysalt]

Seems that DH Smith may be Ted Dibiase's partner at Night of Champions, which is great news IMO

[Halcyon]

Seems that DH Smith may be Ted Dibiase's partner at Night of Champions, which is great news IMO

[Halcyon]

in other news..... Bryan Danielson wrestled a dark match for wwe this week, and actually submitted Lace Cade of all people. I believe he's still under contract with ROH at the mo, but could be a telling time for young Bryan.

[luckysalt]

Yeah I heard this

Kurt Angle wants Doug Williams in TNA and to be sided with Booker T and call Doug Williams 'Cupper T'

Bout time Doug Williams got a shot at the big time, but Cupper T? come on! He's a hard man gimmick, not a joker

[luckysalt]

Kody Rhodes is set to turn heel on Holly during the match and join the team to make it a stable. They were going to make this the new Hart Foundation (with Natalya) before Teddy Hart screwed up in developmental, so they're centering it around Teb Jr instead. It's expected that one or more young wrestlers will step up from fcw to join the fun. A possible return to tv for Ken Doane (Dykstra ) perhaps.

This is the sort of thing WWE should be doing.... building feuds, creating stars, developing the undercard so that eventually some will step up to the main event level. They should not be doing bullshit begging money givaways and shitty match finishes and crappy angles.

[Halcyon]

my god. Alex Shelly and Chris Sabin have just had a match of the year candidate against a couple of dragon gate guys on Impact. f**king superb flow, couple of solid spots, nice and quick pace, no breather periods, and a no bullshit finish. Good times.

[luckysalt]

Im watching TNA fantastic show so far, this tag title match has been very entertaining, but yeah that match Motor City Machine Guns v Speed Muscle, holy shit that was superb stuff, looking forward to seeing more of this stuff, see TNA gives you longer matches where a story is told and aren't afraid to showcase fresh talent

[luckysalt]

Velvet Sky v Gail Kim

decent match too

[Halcyon]

Indeed... a great effort. The knockouts are so much more entertaining than the divas, and actually seem hotter because they're working. In isolation, I'm not convinced sky is actually as hot as say Kelly Kelly or Candice, but because she's working (and isn't horrendous), she's great.

Hold on.... Is that now 4 matches without a mid match advert break. What's up TNA? Russo on holiday?

EDIT: Christopher Daniels as Curry Man = MONEY! LOL

Edited June 14, 2008 by Halcyon

[luckysalt]

I agree, I LOVE curry man, Daniels is a wicked wrestler but I love the Curry Man gimmick, he does it so well, and is SOOO over

[luckysalt]

Loving Booker T's work in TNA so far too, hated him as King Booker, he could have done it well, but WWE just made him annoying, TNA have him just being himself I feel and its working, and Joe has done some good work tonight, both in and out of the ring

Joe v Booker could be a great fued, but I bet it just lasts one PPV

AJ v Angle fued is the main fued in TNA at the moment and everyone knows it

[Halcyon]

Where did dutt suddenly get a load of charisma from? That wink into the camera was ace.

[Halcyon]

Loving Booker T's work in TNA so far too, hated him as King Booker, he could have done it well, but WWE just made him annoying, TNA have him just being himself I feel and its working, and Joe has done some good work tonight, both in and out of the ring

Joe v Booker could be a great fued, but I bet it just lasts one PPV

AJ v Angle fued is the main fued in TNA at the moment and everyone knows it

[luckysalt]

Its cus the people in WWE don't know what they're doing and Vince has lost the plot completely

TNA was an excellent show tonight excellent, wish Karen would have taken an Awesome bomb at the end then though

[Halcyon]

indeed... a great show tonight. And why... because they didn't overbook it. Could have done without the Joe and Nash skit (why is Nash even still employed?), but the wrestling was all of a great standard. Just goes to show, they can do it right. I don't get why they don't more often. 3 or 4 weeks of shows like that, and they'll soon get the US rating back up about 1.0

[luckysalt]

word is Orton is out until October now

Carlito is surely through with wwe soon, hes publicly moaning, and now he trashed HHH at a press conference, oh dear

[Uncle Liam]

TNA is apparently doing a PPV in England next year. I may have to go to that. The last time I was on a wrestling tv show was the ROH dvd from liverpool, when i gave Colt Cabana a high five and when i walked up to him (in my bright red Hulkamania t shirt) it was suggested it looked like I was giving the Nazi salute. Oops.

[Halcyon]

TNA is apparently doing a PPV in England next year. I may have to go to that. The last time I was on a wrestling tv show was the ROH dvd from liverpool, when i gave Colt Cabana a high five and when i walked up to him (in my bright red Hulkamania t shirt) it was suggested it looked like I was giving the Nazi salute. Oops.

[luckysalt]

If TNA do a PPV here next year im going to that!

WWE are f**king morons that they haven't done another here since Summer Slam, that was one of the biggest PPVs of all time, they could easily sell out Wembley again if they did a PPV and it wouldn't even have to be one of the Big four either, thus giving one of their B PPVs a bigger payout than usual, but I guess thats just too simple a plan?

To be honest if I was running WWE Id do at least one PPV from the UK a year

and Id look into other places in Europe too

[dakyras]

wrestling has far too many acronyms.

[Uncle Liam]

If TNA do a PPV here next year im going to that!

WWE are f**king morons that they haven't done another here since Summer Slam, that was one of the biggest PPVs of all time, they could easily sell out Wembley again if they did a PPV and it wouldn't even have to be one of the Big four either, thus giving one of their B PPVs a bigger payout than usual, but I guess thats just too simple a plan?

To be honest if I was running WWE Id do at least one PPV from the UK a year

and Id look into other places in Europe too

[luckysalt]

But business in the states is like that now

They don't need Davey Boy, every show they do here sells out pretty much, they charge FAR more for tickets here than they do the states, their PPVs in the states are down, if they fill Wembley thats 90,000 tickets at a massive whack, plus all the merch they'd sell, and they would get big promotional business for it too

UFC do it regular and their business is just going up and up

WWE should do it and theres NO arguement you can make whatsoever that if they did a B how PPV here in the UK at Wembley it wouldn't make more money than holding it in the States in a 14,000 arena, they would make a killing, and the lose of buyrates would more than be made up by the tickets sales here, otherwise they would never do Raw here, in Japan, etc

Vince has said himself that half of the WWE's income is from overseas now, and its more important than ever, yet they treat us like shit, they never used to back when they thought we were still important when they started doing UK only PPVs and created the European title, but then when business in the States picks back up with the rise of Austin and Rock we were forgotten, and now they need us again, why they aren't doing a PPV here, its like a kick in the teeth, eventually the overseas fanbase will grow tired of their shitty product as well.

Seriously I can see TNA gaining more popularity here as times goes on, the major factor that its on Bravo and not Sky Sports is huge, in the future it could take over here, I think thats TNA's plan, they have just signed that huge deal in Spain and they said they want to be the number wrestling promotion outside of America, good plan, I wish them all the best at least they are trying to grow and improve WWE are just dumb, Vince runs some dumbass money giveaway idea which has fallen flat and he doesn't understand the rise in 96/97/98/99 was the emergance of new talent and the deadwood going away, but talent like Carlito are getting buried and are going to jump TNA