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I was amazed how quickly I just thought to myself "No way". I was a little dissappointed in myself, as she had some clear issues that over time I could have helped with. However so have I, and I am not in a position to rescue anyone (although other people tell me otherwise).

But it's all a learning curve for me at the moment.

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I'm constantly being amazed by the contrast between my newer friend's views on relationships to my older friends

To cut a long story short, I hosted a lads night on Friday that consisted of system linked xbox gaming and what should have been a lot of drinking. The night ended for my older friends at aproximatly 12.15 when their girlfriends all turned up simultaniously to take them home. I am willing to excuse 2 of them for this as they had work early the next day. But the otheres are just pathetic. They've become doormats. Their girlfriends think they can run their lives and they let them! One was even told he wasn't allowed to play on the xbox when he got home because it was bed time! (And not in a sexy way - I know this is the case I'm not guessing) 2 said they would stay the night but were talked out of it by their partners. The problem is all their girlfriends are also friends. And they've got themselves a manipulative ringleader who I believe (and 2 of my other friends agree) is actually telling the others how much they can expect to get away with.

That brings me back to my original point. 2 of my newer friends (one I used to work with and his mate we camped with at download last year) were also round. They're both engaged, but are not doormats. They let their gfs know they wouldn't be home and stayed up til 5.15am playing a FIFA orientated drinking game (detailed in the next gen consoles thread)

So how is it that one group of my friends are 23/24 and all act like middle aged bores who would rather get up early and go shopping for carpet/furniture/curtains to furnish the house they hope to be able to afford in the future, than have fun with their friends, when the other group knows that time apart is healthy and there's a give and take vibe that seems a lot better for them as people. Like I said, the other two are engaged but have plenty of time for friends etc.

I know I'm ranting, so I'll stop shortly. But I think the main factor is confidence. My new friends are very confident people, whereas my older friends are quite withdrawn. Most have settled down with their first girlfriends and it seems they're settling through fear of never being able to get anyone else. Which is why they're such doormats.

Either way it's nice to have some normal friends so I can see what a state the others are in.

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I know I'm ranting, so I'll stop shortly. But I think the main factor is confidence. My new friends are very confident people, whereas my older friends are quite withdrawn. Most have settled down with their first girlfriends and it seems they're settling through fear of never being able to get anyone else. Which is why they're such doormats.

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I'm constantly being amazed by the contrast between my newer friend's views on relationships to my older friends

To cut a long story short, I hosted a lads night on Friday that consisted of system linked xbox gaming and what should have been a lot of drinking. The night ended for my older friends at aproximatly 12.15 when their girlfriends all turned up simultaniously to take them home. I am willing to excuse 2 of them for this as they had work early the next day. But the otheres are just pathetic. They've become doormats. Their girlfriends think they can run their lives and they let them! One was even told he wasn't allowed to play on the xbox when he got home because it was bed time! (And not in a sexy way - I know this is the case I'm not guessing) 2 said they would stay the night but were talked out of it by their partners. The problem is all their girlfriends are also friends. And they've got themselves a manipulative ringleader who I believe (and 2 of my other friends agree) is actually telling the others how much they can expect to get away with.

That brings me back to my original point. 2 of my newer friends (one I used to work with and his mate we camped with at download last year) were also round. They're both engaged, but are not doormats. They let their gfs know they wouldn't be home and stayed up til 5.15am playing a FIFA orientated drinking game (detailed in the next gen consoles thread)

So how is it that one group of my friends are 23/24 and all act like middle aged bores who would rather get up early and go shopping for carpet/furniture/curtains to furnish the house they hope to be able to afford in the future, than have fun with their friends, when the other group knows that time apart is healthy and there's a give and take vibe that seems a lot better for them as people. Like I said, the other two are engaged but have plenty of time for friends etc.

I know I'm ranting, so I'll stop shortly. But I think the main factor is confidence. My new friends are very confident people, whereas my older friends are quite withdrawn. Most have settled down with their first girlfriends and it seems they're settling through fear of never being able to get anyone else. Which is why they're such doormats.

Either way it's nice to have some normal friends so I can see what a state the others are in.

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I'm constantly being amazed by the contrast between my newer friend's views on relationships to my older friends

To cut a long story short, I hosted a lads night on Friday that consisted of system linked xbox gaming and what should have been a lot of drinking. The night ended for my older friends at aproximatly 12.15 when their girlfriends all turned up simultaniously to take them home. I am willing to excuse 2 of them for this as they had work early the next day. But the otheres are just pathetic. They've become doormats. Their girlfriends think they can run their lives and they let them! One was even told he wasn't allowed to play on the xbox when he got home because it was bed time! (And not in a sexy way - I know this is the case I'm not guessing) 2 said they would stay the night but were talked out of it by their partners. The problem is all their girlfriends are also friends. And they've got themselves a manipulative ringleader who I believe (and 2 of my other friends agree) is actually telling the others how much they can expect to get away with.

That brings me back to my original point. 2 of my newer friends (one I used to work with and his mate we camped with at download last year) were also round. They're both engaged, but are not doormats. They let their gfs know they wouldn't be home and stayed up til 5.15am playing a FIFA orientated drinking game (detailed in the next gen consoles thread)

So how is it that one group of my friends are 23/24 and all act like middle aged bores who would rather get up early and go shopping for carpet/furniture/curtains to furnish the house they hope to be able to afford in the future, than have fun with their friends, when the other group knows that time apart is healthy and there's a give and take vibe that seems a lot better for them as people. Like I said, the other two are engaged but have plenty of time for friends etc.

I know I'm ranting, so I'll stop shortly. But I think the main factor is confidence. My new friends are very confident people, whereas my older friends are quite withdrawn. Most have settled down with their first girlfriends and it seems they're settling through fear of never being able to get anyone else. Which is why they're such doormats.

Either way it's nice to have some normal friends so I can see what a state the others are in.

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I'm constantly being amazed by the contrast between my newer friend's views on relationships to my older friends

To cut a long story short, I hosted a lads night on Friday that consisted of system linked xbox gaming and what should have been a lot of drinking. The night ended for my older friends at aproximatly 12.15 when their girlfriends all turned up simultaniously to take them home. I am willing to excuse 2 of them for this as they had work early the next day. But the otheres are just pathetic. They've become doormats. Their girlfriends think they can run their lives and they let them! One was even told he wasn't allowed to play on the xbox when he got home because it was bed time! (And not in a sexy way - I know this is the case I'm not guessing) 2 said they would stay the night but were talked out of it by their partners. The problem is all their girlfriends are also friends. And they've got themselves a manipulative ringleader who I believe (and 2 of my other friends agree) is actually telling the others how much they can expect to get away with.

That brings me back to my original point. 2 of my newer friends (one I used to work with and his mate we camped with at download last year) were also round. They're both engaged, but are not doormats. They let their gfs know they wouldn't be home and stayed up til 5.15am playing a FIFA orientated drinking game (detailed in the next gen consoles thread)

So how is it that one group of my friends are 23/24 and all act like middle aged bores who would rather get up early and go shopping for carpet/furniture/curtains to furnish the house they hope to be able to afford in the future, than have fun with their friends, when the other group knows that time apart is healthy and there's a give and take vibe that seems a lot better for them as people. Like I said, the other two are engaged but have plenty of time for friends etc.

I know I'm ranting, so I'll stop shortly. But I think the main factor is confidence. My new friends are very confident people, whereas my older friends are quite withdrawn. Most have settled down with their first girlfriends and it seems they're settling through fear of never being able to get anyone else. Which is why they're such doormats.

Either way it's nice to have some normal friends so I can see what a state the others are in.

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I'm constantly being amazed by the contrast between my newer friend's views on relationships to my older friends

To cut a long story short, I hosted a lads night on Friday that consisted of system linked xbox gaming and what should have been a lot of drinking. The night ended for my older friends at aproximatly 12.15 when their girlfriends all turned up simultaniously to take them home. I am willing to excuse 2 of them for this as they had work early the next day. But the otheres are just pathetic. They've become doormats. Their girlfriends think they can run their lives and they let them! One was even told he wasn't allowed to play on the xbox when he got home because it was bed time! (And not in a sexy way - I know this is the case I'm not guessing) 2 said they would stay the night but were talked out of it by their partners. The problem is all their girlfriends are also friends. And they've got themselves a manipulative ringleader who I believe (and 2 of my other friends agree) is actually telling the others how much they can expect to get away with.

That brings me back to my original point. 2 of my newer friends (one I used to work with and his mate we camped with at download last year) were also round. They're both engaged, but are not doormats. They let their gfs know they wouldn't be home and stayed up til 5.15am playing a FIFA orientated drinking game (detailed in the next gen consoles thread)

So how is it that one group of my friends are 23/24 and all act like middle aged bores who would rather get up early and go shopping for carpet/furniture/curtains to furnish the house they hope to be able to afford in the future, than have fun with their friends, when the other group knows that time apart is healthy and there's a give and take vibe that seems a lot better for them as people. Like I said, the other two are engaged but have plenty of time for friends etc.

I know I'm ranting, so I'll stop shortly. But I think the main factor is confidence. My new friends are very confident people, whereas my older friends are quite withdrawn. Most have settled down with their first girlfriends and it seems they're settling through fear of never being able to get anyone else. Which is why they're such doormats.

Either way it's nice to have some normal friends so I can see what a state the others are in.

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I'm just so thankful that I've found someone who I can be completely myself around (he had to physically remove me from a fire on Sunday though, before I burnt more than just my fingers :unsure: ) and who cares but isn't paranoid, who worries but doesn't stop me doing what I want to do. This is riciprocated, of course, and I don't mind if he wants to stay out with his mates until 5am.....I realise that me stopping him isn't going to be what stops him messing about and not allowing him his own time and his own life is definately not what would make him happy!!!

Why people do try to run anothers life I will never know, and why people stay in a relationship like that I will never understand! I had a relationship like that once, it lasted 12 months.

It's up to them though, you've got to let them live their own life or else you start becoming what you claim to hate so much about their partners (controlling etc).

I love that this weekend I will be rolling around in a field with a load of hippies, and he's off to a stag do with his mates. We are both very very happy :unsure:

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mmm. For me this is a difficult one. I know that I always wanted to be with my ex and it wasn't out of jealousy it was because I wanted to spend every minute with her. Once she went to a camping board meet and i didn't have a problem, but when it was my turn she went ballistic :unsure:

Even with all the crap things in my life at the moment, I am actually very happy. But it is how I live my life that I think is holding me back on the relationship front. I will not do any permanent work as it will interfere with the festival season, and I will not give up my working at festivals for anybody. Over this past 4 years festivals have saved my life, well the folk I work with. I mean that in a real sense as well. I get alot out of festivals, the people, and I give a hell of alot back. I have people actually looking forward to seeing me, which as man that used to hate himself means the world.

How then can I commit to anyone? I have had couple of brief daliences at festival but those women have gone back to humdrum jobs etc. only doing the one festival. It is really difficult to find someone of a "similar" age that is not obsessed about stability and finances. Mind you living where I do doesn't help.

What the f**k am I rambling about??

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All I know is, sometimes when I go home, my girlfriend sometimes pops by.

Never getting married, nor will I be having those expensive mini-me's that people like to have a few of. I like it the way it is.

"Hey I'm off out to go kill some badgers, I'll be back at stupid o clock tomorrow"

"OK cool, see ya later, have fun!"

Good times.

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I get where you're coming from. Having never been a woman who is obsessed with stability and finances I don't understand those women (i.e. 99.9% of them) who are.

I watched Blow again the other night, his dad has got it right. The 'real' stuff in life is being happy, having fun, living.....not arguing about money etc. If you've got it, enjoy it, if you haven't, enjoy what you have got.

I was very happy bumbling along on my own before meeting Mr Cheese, as I think was he before meeting me. We both very much still want to keep our seperate lives, whilst making sure we always also make time for each other as and when we can do. Perhaps our relationship will/would completely fall apart when the day came that we were able to spend every day together, I don't know, I'll cross that bridge as and when (or if) I come to it.

What the f**k am I rambling about??

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I think deep down I don't know what I want from a relationship. As I have said I am happy in my own little world, and I am bumbling through. You will meet some of friends that live in a woodland community this weekend, and I am extremely envious of them. My "plan" is to get my kids home, and then once they have effed off to Uni etc buy a truck and hit the road. I have met so many lovely people who do the same thing, and I often ask couples how they met.

I honestly don't know why I am typing this, as most of the time I am not bothered. I used to be highly sexed (at least twice a day with the ex) and now I am not bothered. I do miss having someone to talk to at night, but I get over that. Apart from that I often think that relationships are not worth the hassle, never mind finding someone like minded as me. I was going to say "trying to find", but I don't try. If anything is going to happen it will.

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I'm up for hitting the road with Mr Cheese. Now THAT says how much I think of him and how much I like him. He doesn't make me feel like I want to escape from him sometimes.
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Oh dear, you and greenfairy are in for a lengthy conversation. <_<
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mmm. For me this is a difficult one. I know that I always wanted to be with my ex and it wasn't out of jealousy it was because I wanted to spend every minute with her. Once she went to a camping board meet and i didn't have a problem, but when it was my turn she went ballistic <_<

Even with all the crap things in my life at the moment, I am actually very happy. But it is how I live my life that I think is holding me back on the relationship front. I will not do any permanent work as it will interfere with the festival season, and I will not give up my working at festivals for anybody. Over this past 4 years festivals have saved my life, well the folk I work with. I mean that in a real sense as well. I get alot out of festivals, the people, and I give a hell of alot back. I have people actually looking forward to seeing me, which as man that used to hate himself means the world.

How then can I commit to anyone? I have had couple of brief daliences at festival but those women have gone back to humdrum jobs etc. only doing the one festival. It is really difficult to find someone of a "similar" age that is not obsessed about stability and finances. Mind you living where I do doesn't help.

What the f**k am I rambling about??

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