is it wrong, that one the things i most look forward to......

[clarkete]

53 minutes ago, km9 said:

The difference in the posts back in 09 to now... Back then it seems you just posted whatever you wanted with no comeback. Now people would take offence and 'call you out'

Err doesn't your account say "December 10, 2018"?

Not that I am calling you out, but I may playfully suggest that the reason some folks get called out these days is that, by contrast to over a decade ago, there can be a tendency to write things considered provocative - indeed sometimes folks specifically ask for controversial opinions which of course can be as billed. 

[km9]

7 hours ago, clarkete said:

Err doesn't your account say "December 10, 2018"?

Not that I am calling you out, but I may playfully suggest that the reason some folks get called out these days is that, by contrast to over a decade ago, there can be a tendency to write things considered provocative - indeed sometimes folks specifically ask for controversial opinions which of course can be as billed. 

It didn't take long 

[CaledonianGonzo]

So you're suggesting that the forum has improved since those days?  I agree.

Edited October 29, 2022 by CaledonianGonzo

[km9]

🙄

[Cooter]

On 4/22/2008 at 2:27 PM, decembers_spawn said:

the long drops haunt me. I always worry about dropping my wallet in there lol

 

*touches wood*

actually I've always wondered if there's a system in place for such losses. Is there a small team onsite with very long litter pickers or nets? If not I think I'm going to invest and charge £50 a callout!

Edited October 29, 2022 by Cooter

[CaledonianGonzo]

Glastonbury The Movie gives an insight into the routine of the lads who empty the longdrops.

[Skip997]

1 hour ago, Cooter said:

actually I've always wondered if there's a system in place for such losses. Is there a small team onsite with very long litter pickers or nets? If not I think I'm going to invest and charge £50 a callout!

Yes there is, there's some sort of filter in place to prevent such items ending up in the huge slurry tank which feeds the biodigester.

1 hour ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Glastonbury The Movie gives an insight into the routine of the lads who empty the longdrops.

The longdrops are now connected directly to the slurry tank, that's why you no longer see huge tankers being used to empty them.

[tarw]

52 minutes ago, Skip997 said:

Yes there is, there's some sort of filter in place to prevent such items ending up in the huge slurry tank which feeds the biodigester.

The longdrops are now connected directly to the slurry tank, that's why you no longer see huge tankers being used to empty them.

Don’t come into threads like these with factual information. 
 

You’ll be giving us streaming figures to justify your opinion soon😂

Edited October 29, 2022 by tarw

[parsonjack]

2 hours ago, Skip997 said:

The longdrops are now connected directly to the slurry tank, that's why you no longer see huge tankers being used to empty them.

Really?  If the slurry tank is up at the farm then there's several hundred metres of piping needed across the site to long drops south of the railway line, not to mention the pumping gear to shift it across the site and uphill  to the farm.  That's serious investment to save a few tractors chugging about.

[Crazyfool01]

4 minutes ago, parsonjack said:

Really?  If the slurry tank is up at the farm then there's several hundred metres of piping needed across the site to long drops south of the railway line, not to mention the pumping gear to shift it across the site and uphill  to the farm.  That's serious investment to save a few tractors chugging about.

Yeah that’s what I was thinking … swear I saw tractors too … I mean there’s a shed load of long drops all over the place and a pump system would be needed as the shit ain’t flowing up hill 

Edited October 29, 2022 by Crazyfool01

[tarw]

3 minutes ago, parsonjack said:

Really?  If the slurry tank is up at the farm then there's several hundred metres of piping needed across the site to long drops south of the railway line, not to mention the pumping gear to shift it across the site and uphill  to the farm.  That's serious investment to save a few tractors chugging about.

I think that it’s a safety thing to reduce vehicle movements on the site. Even milky milky can’t drive around the campsites anymore ☹️  
 

There’s certainly a lot fewer vehicles than there used to be

[clarkete]

7 hours ago, km9 said:

It didn't take long 

Hey shouldn't you practice what you preach and not take offence? 

I explained why I thought you were a noob who was wrong 😜

[parsonjack]

12 minutes ago, tarw said:

I think that it’s a safety thing to reduce vehicle movements on the site. Even milky milky can’t drive around the campsites anymore ☹️  
 

There’s certainly a lot fewer vehicles than there used to be

Yes that's probably true.....it's the infrastructure needed to do it that makes me dubious.  I mean there's no evidence of pumps in place at the long drops themselves, and there's surely no way the effluent could simply be sucked out from the other side of the site 🤔

I wouldn't fancy being sat on one when they flicked the switch that's for sure 😬

The stuff we discuss while waiting for the ticket sale..... 🤪

Edited October 29, 2022 by parsonjack

[Crazyfool01]

10 minutes ago, parsonjack said:

Yes that's probably true.....it's the infrastructure needed to do it that makes me dubious.  I mean there's no evidence of pumps in place at the long drops themselves, and there's surely no way the effluent could simply be sucked out from the other side of the site 🤔

I wouldn't fancy being sat on one when they flicked the switch that's for sure 😬

The stuff we discuss while waiting for the ticket sale..... 🤪

Dance tent scenes all over the site .. just don’t pump out from the main tank at the top 

[tarw]

At a total guess they would bury the pipes and have shredder pumps at intervals in inspection pits. Probably quite an initial outlay but would be cost effective over time. The number of slurry tankers driving around all day probably costs a lot. 

[Crazyfool01]

5 minutes ago, tarw said:

At a total guess they would bury the pipes and have shredder pumps at intervals in inspection pits. Probably quite an initial outlay but would be cost effective over time. The number of slurry tankers driving around all day probably costs a lot. 

theres also been no evidence of this spotted on the webcam .... trenches criss crossing the site would be fairly obvious 

[incident]

12 minutes ago, tarw said:

At a total guess they would bury the pipes and have shredder pumps at intervals in inspection pits. Probably quite an initial outlay but would be cost effective over time. The number of slurry tankers driving around all day probably costs a lot. 

They don't really have multiple tankers driving around all day though - as someone mentioned large parts of the site now has restricted vehicle movements during hours when people are up and about, so most stuff is done early morning hence why people don't see tankers as often (they do still exist, though, for example anyone who camps in Lime Kiln will see them trundling past fairly often). The long drops themselves have big enough tanks that they can easily cope with a few days of use between being emptied, so emptying happens daily at most even for the busiest ones.

Can't imagine any scenario where it becomes cost effective to plumb them in, except maybe at a stretch a handful of the ones nearest the farm.

Edited October 29, 2022 by incident

[Skip997]

1 hour ago, tarw said:

I think that it’s a safety thing to reduce vehicle movements on the site. Even milky milky can’t drive around the campsites anymore ☹️  
 

There’s certainly a lot fewer vehicles than there used to be

This is the reason. When I used to do traffic control on the old railway line the big tractors towing the tankers were by far the greatest danger to people.

[Skip997]

https://www.aquasition.co.uk/2017/09/12/glastonbury-festival-level-monitoring-35-septic-tanks-longdrops/

[parsonjack]

1 minute ago, Skip997 said:

https://www.aquasition.co.uk/2017/09/12/glastonbury-festival-level-monitoring-35-septic-tanks-longdrops/

Just seen that......it suggests there is a monitoring system to target which tanks need emptying, but nothing to suggest they still don't just despatch the tractor and tank to do it.

[Crazyfool01]

3 minutes ago, Skip997 said:

https://www.aquasition.co.uk/2017/09/12/glastonbury-festival-level-monitoring-35-septic-tanks-longdrops/

that just debunks the theory ... all it does is say when they need to be emptied with level indicators ... so the ones that don't need it dont get unnecessarily emptied there is no evidence of connection .... same time as Parson Jacks post above 

Edited October 29, 2022 by Crazyfool01

[Skip997]

Yea looks like I was given the wrong info by someone, can't remember who.

[parsonjack]

1 hour ago, Skip997 said:

Yea looks like I was given the wrong info by someone, can't remember who.

No worries bud....sorry to jump on you like a pack of dogs.  Pre-sale tension kicking in I think 😬

[km9]

4 hours ago, clarkete said:

Hey shouldn't you practice what you preach and not take offence? 

I explained why I thought you were a noob who was wrong 😜

I love you bro.

You may not love me but that's ok

Edited October 29, 2022 by km9

[stuartbert two hats]

5 hours ago, parsonjack said:

Really?  If the slurry tank is up at the farm then there's several hundred metres of piping needed across the site to long drops south of the railway line, not to mention the pumping gear to shift it across the site and uphill  to the farm.  That's serious investment to save a few tractors chugging about.

Yeah, I thought the modern difference was that they were just bigger, so didn't need to be emptied as often.

Although that may have been a one off. I remember Michael bragging in 2014 that they had some longdrops that didn't need to be emptied until after the festival.  And they fucking stank that year.